Anyone have thoughts on this story regarding Linux Mint?
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/03/01/2032216/linux-mint-developers-will-force-updates-on-users-like-microsoft-does-with-windows-10
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@mathlover I've never had a good opinion of that distro. They've also accidentally shipped malware in their ISOs. The only arguments I've heard for it are the WM and that they ship some non-free and legally gray software so WiFi and DVDs don't need any extra work.
@wiggles @swiley @mathlover Jeez that's the kind of stuff I _don't_ want from my distro, though the auto-updates thing is a bit incorrect I think? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Mint-Feb-2021
It looks less like "forced" and more just nagging, which while annoying isn't on the same level.
It looks less like "forced" and more just nagging, which while annoying isn't on the same level.
@wiggles @mathlover @swiley Also Mint's just Ubuntu/Debian based right? Ergo it uses dpkg/apt so I think it's just referring to their frontend/gui tool (assuming something like Plasma Discover or GNOME Software) doing the nagging. I'm sure if one wanted it could be removed/ignored. Though at the same time, LinMint is aimed at less techy types no? I don't think that those kinds of users would be too worried about specific package versions (let alone knowing what a package is), so it's all sorta here and there.
The main issue is choice. I mean nothing wrong with being able to toggle autoupdates if you're not too worried about potential breakage (the non-techy user is going to care about exactly 3-4 things,namely the browser (both firefox and chrome(ium) autoupdate on windows anyways)
The main issue is choice. I mean nothing wrong with being able to toggle autoupdates if you're not too worried about potential breakage (the non-techy user is going to care about exactly 3-4 things,namely the browser (both firefox and chrome(ium) autoupdate on windows anyways)
@denza252 @mathlover @swiley it's good that this may be overblown this time. Maybe Clem learned his lesson. Burnt once twice shy, though. I like Arch. Lol.
@wiggles @swiley @mathlover I remember the security update blacklisting and it turned me off from ever trying Mint.
What’s funny is last week he posted on their blog “Update Your OSes” https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4030
What’s funny is last week he posted on their blog “Update Your OSes” https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4030
@swiley I've heard some people claim it's better than Ubuntu, but Ubuntu doesn't pull this shit last I checked. Personally I am considering switching over from Ubuntu to Arch at some point (I'm already running a VM with Arch for fun)
@swiley @mathlover the project leader, Clem, is an asshole and a moron who doesn’t think security updates are important (there was a previous scandal where upstream security updates were not pushed down to Mint users because of him) and I remember once him coming into IRC and telling everyone that if they didn’t support BDS they shouldn’t use Linux Mint, so fuck that guy