The man needs to be escorted off U.S. government property immediately.
SHAME on every single remaining Republican. Special shame to all the congressional Republicans who will object to accepting the electoral college votes, especially considering that absolutely none of them truly believes what they're asserting and are willing to subvert democracy for a political advantage.
The hero is the person who leaked the audio recording of the call. #EndTheGOP
‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor-
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
@TonyStark You need to follow the UK, over here if you are the current PM and lose the general election you are OUT, and the new PM moves in within a day or maybe two. New government takes over very quickly too.
This hardly making the news here in the UK but it really does not reflect well for the USA, you will never be able to critisize other countries if their election results are not accepted.
Best wishes to all our friends in the USA.
@zleap No one here on democracy.town thinks it's a good system. We'd be thrilled to elect our president by popular vote and inaugurate them a few days later. We have a constitutional issue though, and it's very hard to change it. We need two-thirds of Congress and then the amendment has to be ratified by 38 states. There's a reason we only have 27 amendments to the Constitution in over 200 years. The first 10 were written immediately following the initial document and adopted in 1791 (two years after the Constitution), and the next 17 between then and 1992, which was the last time. @TonyStark
@MariaHill @TonyStark Is there the will from the US people to do that,
@MariaHill @TonyStark So with popular vote would you vote directly for either candidate, so in the case of last years election Joe Biden vs Donald Trump?
@zleap Yes. But as it happens now, it only appears that way. In November, I did vote for Biden and Harris. But the state legislature actually names people who cast a number of votes, equal to the number of representatives plus the two senators from my state. The candidate must get a majority of those, which is 270, to become president. That vote took place on December 14th, not on the first Tuesday in November. This Wednesday, our Congress will open those votes and count them, which is the latest nonsense you are reading about. That's why we have four months of this. All of these steps. If we had a direct (popular, meaning of the people) election, we could inaugurate the president as soon as the votes were all counted. @TonyStark
@MariaHill @TonyStark Seems like you need a degree in something or other to understand your system of voting, rather complex, maybe what is happening is a good thing it may wake the US people up to the changes that need to be made, or maybe even the next generation, change HAS to come at some point.
@zleap I do not think most people understand how complex it is. I'm glad to help people understand, whether they are American citizens or not. Not understanding it discourages voting among those who are eligible. Unfortunately, that also benefits too many politicians. @TonyStark
@MariaHill @TonyStark
Hence the 270 is the electoral college vote target.
@zleap The will isn't there from our elected officials. It suits Republicans in the Senate to keep it this way. Multiple times over the decades, a popular vote has been proposed, and every time it has been southern whites (the parties have flipped positions and conservative whites used to be Democrats) who know they will lose their power with direct election of the president. Republicans have won the popular vote one time since 2000 yet have held the presidency 12 of 20 years. Under a popular vote system, if the elections had gone the same way (which is unlikely since with a different presidency, the following election would have been different), they would have held it for four years. @TonyStark