@Radical_EgoCom @zleap I worked all through high school since it was the only way to fund my drug habit. I graduated just fine after 6 years
@twitterreject @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social
Kids can work in the UK however they still need to attend school so the work cannot impact on that.
I think they can still do a paper round not that many people get a daily paper any more.
@twitterreject @Radical_EgoCom@kolektiva.social
As with anything workers need protection from being exploited, so any rules regarding kids working should be to put their welfare first. Kids who are working are also gaining valuable work experience too. Something that employers should value.
@zleap @Radical_EgoCom I agree with all this. Issue I’m having is these posts are making it seem like kids were previously prevented from working and now they’re going to be allowed to and that shouldn’t happen. I didn’t click on the stories bc the headlines just made me mad. If it’s simply that they are removing laws that protected kids at work, then the headlines should say that. But the implications were that kids could now work and that’s bad.
@zleap @Radical_EgoCom here’s an example. What’s wrong with teens doing roofing? I did construction and siding when I was 15 over the summer. Tough work but it was cool to learn.
@twitterreject
You definitely need to read past the headlines, there's a lot more going on here. Here's the details of Iowa's new legislation, for example:
"allow: 14- and 15-year-olds to work evening work shifts ending at 9 p.m. (currently 7 p.m.). During summers, 11 p.m. would be the latest (currently 9 p.m.). Working up to 6 hours a day during the school year (currently 4 hours.). 17-year-olds to work the same hours as adults."
"in Section 92.24: If teens participate in a work-based learning or a school or employer work-related program, the state’s workforce development director would have the discretion to waive prohibitions on minors working in manufacturing, mining, and food processing"
"If a minor becomes ill, is injured, or killed, companies would be shielded from liability. (Exception: Only the highest standard, gross negligence or willful misconduct could be filed in civil court.) No workers’ compensation claims, either."
iowacapitaldispatch.com/2023/0…
@mnemonicoverload @zleap @Radical_EgoCom @twitterreject
They have Legalised Child Slave Labor.....
They're all Barbarians.
@maddad @mnemonicoverload@libranet.de @zleap @Radical_EgoCom what does that mean?
@mnemonicoverload @zleap @Radical_EgoCom @twitterreject
Further, consider that there's a pattern to *which* children will be, by their familiy cirumstances, funneled to late-night McJobs; and which will instead have the luxury of sleep before the, say, AP exams.
I got my first job at age 14 as a grocery clerk (unless you count babysitting, in which case age 12). I don't have a problem with, say, apprenticeships. But it should be safe, OPTIONAL, and not a way to suppress adults' wages.
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I had various part time jobs as a teen which didn't impact on my school performance, I grew up in Britain where there are regulations against excessive child labour and they are enforced.
Even so, my best paying Saturday job was selling cigarettes/tobacco from a supermarket kiosk (run by a Big Tobacco company!) as young as 17; it was only in the 2000s that the EU stopped teens being allowed to work in such places until 18..
@zleap @Radical_EgoCom I started working at age 12 cutting lawns. I was a caddy at 13 & dishwasher at 14. I was never allowed to miss school over it. I know the motives for companies using kids are bad but I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with kids working if their parents allow it. This entire thing seems like either pearl clutching or just automatically attacking anything from Republicans.
I don’t think this is a winning argument to fight for dems.