@Bendodroid @izaya some things to think about. I have to say it was odd for Proven to keep harping on how successive generations were "worse" even when they met the market and were successful given he framed the "evolution" in biological terms. Understood his meaning -- the newer machines has reduced performance on some metrics -- but the shift he's talking about isn't better or worse: it's more like left, right, or widdershins wrt to where we are now