Uvalde: AR-15
Buffalo: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Nashville: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Midland/Odessa: AR-15
Colorado Springs: AR-15
Poway synagogue: AR-15
Sutherland Springs: AR-15
Tree of Life Synagogue: AR-15
Louisville: AR-15
@tristansnell and zero instances in the country in history where anyone has used an AR-15 to successfully gunned down a pickpocket or prevented the police from brutalizing and killing a Black man in their custody. It would seem the AR-15 has a lot of deaths tallied up on its bedpost, but none of them are for any good or patriotic purpose.
@muzikant You don't really think that's true, right? AR-15s are used for defense of self or others all the time. Those examples just aren't as hyped by the media.
@muzikant Literally the first result on google details ten such examples:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/defensive-ar-15-uses/#:~:text=Mary%2C%20Florida%2C%20a%20group%20of,rounds%20before%20the%20threat%20ceased.
@LouisIngenthron all of those were people at home. And any gun would have had the same result.
@muzikant According to this study, only about half of defensive incidents with a gun occur on one's own property. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4109494
And your "any gun" argument works in the opposite direction too. The fact that "any gun" would work in an AR-15's place makes it that much more silly of an idea to ban AR-15s specifically.
@LouisIngenthron at least one of your citations was a man who just showed the gun to the perpetrator.
But not “any gun” can mow through a crowd or devastate children like an AR-15.
@LouisIngenthron “A gunshot wound is potentially fatal no matter what kind of ammunition is used. But Cynthia Bir showed us the difference in an AR-15 round against gelatin targets in her ballistics lab at the University of Southern California.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ar-15-mass-shootings-60-minutes-2022-05-29/
"Organs aren't just going to tear or have bruises on them, they're going to be, parts of them are going to be destroyed."
@muzikant Against an unarmored target, you get almost the exact same effect by hollowing out the point of any other type of round. Hollow-points are freely sold legally across the country.
@LouisIngenthron cite your source to verify this claim.
@muzikant Again, first google result (and personal experience).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet
Specifically, read the Mechanism section for a description of the destructive potential of the mushrooming effect.
@LouisIngenthron you don’t need to condescend, when I ask you to cite your source I want to know what YOU use to back up YOUR claims.
The Wikipedia article doesn’t compare it to AR-15s. Do you have a source that does?
@muzikant I use personal experience to back up my claims. I've shot both at soft tissue targets (in my case, melons).
Both bullets cause shock waves that balloon out and cause massive damage. What more comparison do you need?
More importantly, the technique of hollowing out a round's point can be used on any caliber, so there's no fixed point of comparison to begin with. Even AR-15 rounds can be purchased with hollow points, and non-AR-15 rounds can have higher powder loads to go the speed the AR rounds go and do damage the same way they do (although this usually requires modifications to the weapon's receiver to handle the increased pressure involved). Several calibers do it by default.
Meanwhile, the AK-47 is more reliable, has a bigger magazine capacity, is cheaper because Russia made tons of them during the cold war and now they're available surplus, and uses bigger bullets that are typically made out of steel, which can penetrate through multiple walls... and it's even the quintessential movie bad guy gun. Yet people are concerned about AR-15s. 
@LouisIngenthron @muzikant how about just ban assault weapons?
