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@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
And when someone staps someone or beats them with a bat do we cry about how bats are legal... Yes there is a problem, but absurd solutions like making guns illegal is obviously not the answer.
@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
Hmm, there is a disconnect: it was stated that guns should be regulated, with strict background checks. Your reply talks of "making guns illegal".
Did you reply to the wrong toot here or do you think background checks are a bad thing? If so, do you wish for people with known agression problems (psychological disorders or former history of violent crimes) to be able to have guns?
I dont think you can see the toot i replied to, the person blocked me.
I am not against background checks in their current form, which is thurough and complete.
The one issue with the current setup is loopholes at gun shows. But that doesnt appear to be a huge source of actual problems so yra im for background checks as they exist today.
@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
@freemo @stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
You might want to state that, the toot history i read showed you ignoring the distinction between banning and background checks... it changes the meaning completely.
No i was quite clear i was talking about a specific type of commonly proposed restriction, banning.
@stormy178@mastodon.stormy178.com @MelodyCooper
@freemo And who you responded to was quite clear that background checks matter.
@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven
I mean i dont mind private sales. But yea they should be taxed and follow regulation ideally.
@freemo @thatguyoverthere
Well for the topic at hand, it would not exactly matter if a sale is public or private - just that background checks are performed.
Are private sellers liable for what is done with their gun until background checks are performed?
Sell to a loonie, get imprisoned for their murder, right?
@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo @thatguyoverthere They wouldn't be liable for the actions of another person, no. But knowingly selling a gun without doing a background check should be a felony in its own right. That's the goal of the UBC movement.
@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere It very much depends on the state. I have personal experience buying guns without background checks, even as recently as the last year, perfectly legally.
@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere As for your second point, I've heard it suggested that BGCs should be a service offered by the post office. Everyone has a post office nearby. The buyer and seller go to the post office (without the merchandise), the buyer gets background checked, then when they leave the seller can sell with a clean conscience. Everyone wins.
@LouisIngenthron @admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere
I suspect if you look at thr numbers not that many are the result of circumventing backgroubd checks.
That said i am fine and support requiring background checks for private sales, but to do that youd have to give private owners access to the mechanisms to do it at the same price as a shop.