Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@Abazigal This isn't about "politically correct". It's about whether you let content like "all brown people are animals and should be kicked out of the country" on your platform.

Either you unequivocally say "no" to that or you'll quickly find yourself surrounded by white guys who have unhealthy obsessions with swastikas.

So, yes, it would have been better if he had "lied" because at least that would send the message that such content is not welcome.

@Jennifer_Pinkley@zirk.us @JoeChip Disagree. Cars kill as many people as guns in America. If you can't keep your car under control, especially if you're on someone's private property where their kids are, and you end up losing control to the extent that you assault them, they absolutely have every right to feel threatened enough to pull a gun.

@AriCohn It's more about the comments the CEO made in the interview (video embedded in the above linked article) where he was asked point-blank some questions he should have easily said "no" to and instead he just waffled poorly.

@AriCohn Masnick wrote about it: https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/14/substack-ceo-chris-best-doesnt-realize-hes-just-become-the-nazi-bar/

@Jennifer_Pinkley@zirk.us @JoeChip Right, because they were driving erratically, ran over his foot, and couldn't keep their story straight.

@Katrags No, Florida has more homocides than most big cities because Florida is a state that contains more than one city.
States with stand your ground/castle doctrine laws and precedents are 3/4 of the union.

@TootUncommon@mas.to Plus, the guy said "I tried to remain calm because they were shooting, so I was trying to keep her safe as possible" while also "D'arville and Thomas spoke with NBC6, saying they were terrified when they drove off and only realized they'd be shot at when they pulled over a few blocks away."

So... that story isn't even internally consistent. I'd take anything they say with a grain of salt.

@Katrags @Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social Yes, if someone thinks the erratic driver poses a threat to themselves or others, they have the right to eliminate that threat on their property.

That said, I believe this particular case was unjustified because he only shot as they were driving away. Shooting at a fleeing suspect should never be legal.

@Katrags @Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social Driving erratically where someone's children are playing can reasonably be interpreted as threatening too.

@TootUncommon@mas.to More details here. The story definitely doesn't add up.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/actions-of-gunman-instacart-delivery-driver-justified-in-davie-shooting-incident-police/3019765/

@Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social More details here: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/actions-of-gunman-instacart-delivery-driver-justified-in-davie-shooting-incident-police/3019765/

@TootUncommon@mas.to @Katrags Apparently there are some more details here: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/actions-of-gunman-instacart-delivery-driver-justified-in-davie-shooting-incident-police/3019765/

@Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social @Katrags Which is exactly why they already aren't legal.

@ech @georgetakei To be fair to the OP, I did find the original article referenced, and it does match his characterization of events:
https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-couple-delivering-instacart-groceries-shot-at-after-driving-to-wrong-address/

@Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social @Katrags Yes, they can. But the facts in that case appear to be quite different than the facts in this one.
In Florida's law, they have to reasonably believe deadly force is "necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themself or another".