I don't think we should let any of the people who brought this climate catastrophe upon us off the hook. If you can't be held accountable for destroying the planet, wtf can you be held accountable for.

@StillIRise1963
True. But how can we atone? Ive just invested far more than I can afford in an electric car which eventually will be mostly powered my home brewed solar. I've cut down on meat consumption but have yet to go full vegan (I'm never giving up honey even when I do). I try not to buy ot use any single or trivial use plastic. But none of this begins to pay for my part for the last 50 years of supporting big oil in the only way they needed. Buying their stuff.

@stewartvm I don't mean us. I mean the people that stood in the way of us doing something to stop it.

@StillIRise1963
Oh, okay. And you're right about them being a problem, but I still feel like I never did enough. I don't think many of us did.

@stewartvm It's way bigger than us normal people. It's about policy and it's about the super wealthy.

@StillIRise1963 individuals need to stop bearing the brunt of the guilt about climate chaos. Companies knew- the oil companies knew in the 70s that increasing our oils use would put us in danger - and they didn’t just ignore it- they buried it.
@stewartvm

@Danetteb @StillIRise1963
They did indeed know. I was teaching Environmental Studies as an assistant in the late 70s and I knew. I disagree that we as individuals are not responsible to a large extent. Everybody knows now, but still responses range from fingers in the ears to hypocrites like myself still eating meat and dairy to the few who have led by good example.got on the streets and tried, in vain it seems to me, to wake the rest of us up.

@stewartvm There are no real ways for the average person to make a dent. This is an issue of governmental policy and the behavior of the super wealthy. I will not take on responsibility that does not belong to me. This was done to us. @Danetteb

@StillIRise1963 @Danetteb
In this planet we are the super wealthy. People are going to starve and drown and burn all over before any of this really affects us, the people that use the cars, the plastic, the meat. Okay, any individual action isn't going to change anything much, but we are much more than individuals.

@stewartvm if your city is built to essentially force people to have a car and if putting in cleaner energy in your homes is so expensive you can’t do it OR your HOA rules prevent it (which many do) that is bigger than the individual. I believe in community but in the 70s when Carter first began talking about global warming, the general public bought into it. Who didn’t the corporations & they have gaslit this country with propaganda so they need to be held responsible for that @StillIRise1963

1979 @Danetteb @stewartvm @StillIRise1963 there would have been solar panels in every house in Puerto Rico had Carter had a 2nd term. my father was part of a group of urban developers trying to get them manufactured and sold in the island. Reagan not only killed the program and rolled back the subsidies but killed every single project that could have made the island energy independent.

my hope is to go back home and research my hometown’s archives on that project. it enrages me this happened.