I am starting a thread on education responses to chatGPT. Please feel free to add to it.

I am not really concerned about the reaction posts, I am looking for useful information and the impact.

@martin
openedtech.global/blog/open-ed

John Spencer spencerauthor.com/englishai/

Steve Heimler
youtube.com/watch?v=jvNm7aXYPJ

@edutooters #chatGPT

@scerruti @martin @edutooters I was talking about this with my wife last night. I think the potential for cheating is more of a symptom. Students feel the need to cheat because we've set up an education system that prioritized grades and rankings over actual learning.

The real solution is to revamp how we evaluate students, but that requires a big shift from secondary -> college.

@scerruti @martin @edutooters If students felt like school was about *actually learning* instead of competing for GPAs and limited slots at expensive colleges (and therefore scholarships), maybe they wouldn't stress out when it takes a little longer to grasp a concept.

It doesn't help that we need to set quarterly or semesterly deadlines for completing work.

Also important to note that in *most* lines of work, you're never graded. You just decide when the product is good enough and move on.

@aiannazzone @scerruti @martin @edutooters also important to note that in many of not all work situations one works as part of a team, it doesn't matter if it's in a restaurant, IT, teaching, HR, retail, etc... Individual accountability is often hard or impossible to ascribe because of complex contexts and interdependence on others.

@ZingerLearns @aiannazzone @martin @edutooters "Individual accountability is often hard or impossible" as someone who has been a manger for more years than a teacher working with complex multi-site teams, I can tell you this is not impossible. It's made difficult in education by the lack of authentic assessments and the underlying design of modern education.

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@scerruti @aiannazzone @martin @edutooters i think it is very difficult, and often inequitable the way we assess both teachers and students. I have worn both teacher and administrator hats and will make a few points, focusing on students as an example. I recently spoke to a reporter about this as it related to grades and standardized test scores such as the NAEP. And I should say, it's easy to assess or evaluate, it is difficult or impossible to do so holistically or equitably.
1) Many factors outside of school have significant impact on student learning and well being. These include meeting basic needs such as food. There have been lots of studies that have shown how social supports for marginalized communities have closed achievement gaps. All to say, it's very hard to learn when you are hungry, which also extends to high levels of stress, trauma etc...
2) Many standardized tests (often overblown and single data points that should be considered with many others) are given at irregular intervals, in the US for example, the CCSS and NGSS focused tests, that are done in 5th, 8th, and 11th grades. That make it very difficult to attribute where learning did or did not take place.
3) Standardized tests are a very narrow measure, the whole "teaching to the test" is that the goal of education?
4) Student well being in a school is the product of many many factors controlled by everyone from the principal who implements district policy, works to set culture to counselors, nurses (if any), librarians, janitors, office staff, and teachers. All of these can support or harm student learning to various degrees.

There is a pervasive over-ascribing of responsibility for often 'failing' student performance to teachers which is persistent and highly problematic.

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