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@mguhlin
I think that raises other points and other considerations.
NGSS itself seems agnostic to these approaches. Of course you have the DCIs, CCCs, and SEPs. Some of the SEPs alighn with these approaches. Some people use CERs, some POEs, I hope most use focal phenomenon. I do sometimes worry that there are so many approaches and wonder if they are used in principled ways, it's not just the tool, but how it's used.

@mguhlin
Absolutely, and again really appreciate the doc you shared. Almost wish we could expand on the reasoning piece.
I wonder if creating a similar document to yours with one or two specific examples would be useful?
For example, one frustration and challenge I often experience is around evolution or other theories in science that often have short definitions that students can recite without deeper understanding, and we as teachers don't always support that deeper understanding.
So I could imagine a question asking students how they think sharks/squirrels/trees etc will evolve over the next 10000 years due to climate change. Students can then make claims (future), bring evidence (past evolution and evolutionary theory) but then would need to explain and detail environmental changes, how selection works, gene pools at the species level etc for their reasoning. Not just "they will evolve to meet environmental needs"

Relatedly this also reminds me of the questions we ask students to do C-E-Rs on, and how these questions sometimes are rote and factual and not really CER worthy.

@carnage4life
And how to unlock and lock doors!

@mguhlin
CERs can be very powerful and effective in helping students reason in any subject, I appreciate the structure of this and the sentence starters. I wish for a little more on the reasoning, which tends to be the hardest component for students.
How can we move beyond ... because such and such law or reference says so... to students actually explaining and linking the evidence more explicitly to their claims?

@BrentGWarner
My hope then is that those of us who are a little more tech savvy to invite, welcome, and support, teachers on here. In general, I have found this to be the case. The learning curve for me was not all that steep, but I am probably a poor judge of what the hump might be for others in contrast with the bird app or something like Instagram. I wonder if an enterprising educator or group of educators would create an instance specifically for teachers (don't think I have seen one yet), that would reduce that hump through various features and supports.

@BrentGWarner

I do miss the large and engaged educator community I had on Twitter, and I have not reached nearly the same on here. I find I spend less time on socials in general and connect more with local teachers. I do hope that Mastodon can develop into the same rich educator community as there was on the bird.
One aspect I do not miss at all that I am glad is less likely to be sustainable here is the "edutainment" ecosystem with the snake oil salesmen.

@Ulrich_the_Elder @StillIRise1963
I literally can't think of a single example of water privatization that has resulted in the same or better quality of water at the same or lower costs.
The capitalistic notion of let's just business it and it works better has failed again and again, but we continue to get lulled into it with empty promises, and ultimately pay the cost to make billionaires richer.

@StillIRise1963
This reminds me of the Blue Gold movie, that documented privatization of water across the globe.

Nothing like taking a public good, handing it to a for profit company and watching prices rise and quality fall. Nestle and Danone if I recall are central to this. We need to protect what should be basic rights including access to clean water, food, energy, and housing.

https://youtu.be/oYHf6OOCRPU?si=N4SgKwcLWdEqFgFh