Just a reminder, being a horrible person shoukdnt be tolerated simply because they claim their religion says so.... **YOU** choose one of any number of interpritations of your religion that caused you to be a horrible person. Thats not your religions fault, thats just you finding an excuse to be a shit human. No one needs to tolerate you being a shit human just because your a religious shit human.

That is all...

@freemo I find the multiple interpretations or treating religion as a buffet argument often quite insincere and intellectually dishonest.

You call yourself a believer of a religion. The religion has some scripture and some history.
Those say that believers should act certain way, say certain things, perform certain rituals to appease their deity. But you do absolutely none of that. At that point what makes you any different from an unbeliever who acts the same way you do?

Yes there are different interpretations, a lot of parts of religion are intentionally vague so that they can't be proven false. There are things lost in translation. But rarely are those direct negations.
Yes you can have a discussion on if various food rules etc make sense to uphold if they were made to prevent disease and we now know how to do it better, but that's not the case with social or political stuff, humans haven't changed.
If I write a book and call it Scripture 2.0 and just negate the original belief, I didn't make a new interpretation, I'm just wrong.

I agree, it's a useful excuse and a religion typically has specific and clear borders of who's inside and who's outside. Even when it's specified like the wiccans or witchcraft where it's explicitly libertarian. You can always know where you are if you're honest.

Also, the responsibility for actions one takes belongs to the one acting. We can discuss how they were trapped by their place of birth & their society or religion or whatever but the responsibility is theirs. Any other mental framework does not work out one way or another.

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Well no. Most religions are divided into many different interpritations, each group that exists is sometimes very popular sometines not. You have christianity, which is a faith based on thr bible, thrn you have thousands of interpritations, some are popular enough to have names, some arent. Juat because sometimes people choose the same interpritation doesnt meant its suddenly has some official status.

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@freemo @Corfiot @matrix Corfiot, please explain the clear borders. Where do they come from? Genuinely curious.

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