This pretty much describes the extreme left and right perfectly.

@freemo Mysterious stuff, the definitions of extreme left and right... won't find two people on this planet agreeing there

@admitsWrongIfProven Its usually only the people existing at these extreme ends who struggle to see the line where the extreme begins. Moderates on the left, right, and center are much better at it.

@freemo I find left and right to be hard enough as they are, without the "extreme".
It may have all started out with royalists sitting on the right, but from there a lot has happened.

@freemo Care to try defining it together or would that be too stressful for the evening?

@admitsWrongIfProven i can define it with a simple drawi g, give me a minute.

@freemo Sure. And i interpret this as "yeah, now is a good time".

So i started out with the historical meaning. I would guess Aristocracy is not your fancy, so let's go on to the concept of "conservative", which means "change things slowly and pay attention to not make anything worse", which is something claimed to be on the right. This, i would say, is a good concept most of the time.
I do not see it currently in any politics.

Left, that would be against the royalists, pretty indistinct. Generally associated with peoples rights, contrary to first the royals, then the rich.
I do not see that either in the current political landscape.

Now, before diving in any deeper, do you actually see any effective measures to either side in politics? Family values, peoples rights, any of the topics claimed by either side?

So, provided you don't say "but they do have values, everything's great", we would have to determine what we actually mean - political parties? What people on masto toot? It's not like it was all aligned in set groups.