@lupyuen As someone who's entrypoint to Linux was Ubuntu (after messing around with things like dsl, puppy, and other stuff); can anyone explain to me why systemd is so dang devisive? Is there genuinely anything technically wrong with it, or is it just another vim vs emacs thing?

@rgegriff @lupyuen It's mostly a matter of philosophy. Some feel that systemd takes on too many roles, violating the Unix principles. This does bleed into it being technically undesirable sometimes, since it might be "bloated" in some regard (e.g. slow, unmanageable, etc.).

From a regular user's perspective; it won't affect you. systemd would very likely benefit you.

From a systems administrator's or enthusiast's; you might have concerns about systemd.

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> From a regular user's perspective; it won't affect you. systemd would very likely benefit you.

until you try to setup a vpn with networkmanager and systemd-resolved manages to be even more broken in regards of updating your resolvers than any hack used previously. welcome to hell.

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