@evelyn @bonifartius Funny that people who are upset about the "industrial revolution and its consequences" are using such "consequences" (just about everything) to express that dissatisfaction. Shouldn't you all be on the field trying to grow food? Do what you what preach, right...
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@travis @niclas @evelyn the issue with "stand on the field" is that the industrialization also changed our societies massively.
it was rather common (for better or worse) to live together with at least one side of parents and other relatives who could then take care of household stuff and kids, while now you are practically forced to put kids into some paid (via tax or via direct payment) care while you go to work to pay for the individualized living spaces we now have. hell, the now grand-parent generation is probably unfit to take care of kids anyway if i look at how they behave.
it's not that everything technological is bad, but the way it was and still is done isn't sustainable and doesn't make people happy. sure, the basic needs are taken care of, but why do people feel the _need_ to spend big amounts of money on bad "entertainment" and vanity related stuff now if not to fill a hole that is missing. probably half of the population is taking antidepressants or something else related to mental problems.
there really is something very broken with how things are, and it starts to show. in some sense we are back to the beginning of industrialization with how many people are living on the bare minimum in many western countries.
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@bonifartius @travis @evelyn I think you are blaming the wrong thing for the ills. Strong families were still present in Europe/USA after world war 2, 100-150 years after industrialization started.
BUT, expansion of governments (via public school indoctrination) accelerated (beyond crazy) in the middle of the 20th century.
Governments can steal more... uhhh... I mean collect more taxes the more people that has monetary income. (non-family childcare --> 3 people instead of 1)