would you sacrifice intelligence to be more physically attractive? m/f?
@velartrill Honestly I think I would be a nicer person if I was a little less intelligent.
@skadi same, i think this can probably be generalized to some extent

@velartrill @skadi looks can be improved, being nicer is also a matter of training. not that i'm particularly good with either, but you can fix those. being dumb is being dumb, can't fix that.

@bonifartius @skadi > looks can be improved

yeah but for some very unfortunate people it requires cosmetic surgery

> being nicer is also a matter of training

technically true, but like. as someone who started out life a really shitty and unpleasant person, it takes… an unusual combination of personality characteristics and circumstances, i think. most mean people just double down and bury themselves in their spite unless someone else dedicates heroic effort to saving them. i'm not even sure what it was that made me realize what a piece of shit i was, and i only changed because i have personal values that i came to understand i was not acting in line with.

also, while it's possible to be dumb but nice, i suspect if you're an asshole it takes some significant brainpower to work out how to change yourself even if you decide you *want* to change in the first place

ime making radical changes to your personality is unusual, as an exercise of will even more so. then again im american and we're all sociopaths
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> yeah but for some very unfortunate people it requires cosmetic surgery

of course, but i think that has to be really disfigureing imo. most things tend to be worse for oneself than for others. the crushs i had in retrospective were rather imperfect regarding their looks. society wants perfection of course.

regarding niceness: if there is no incentive to be nicer, it's hard to do. _i_ just don't like being an asshole if i'm not wronged, i just get in a bad mood then myself. if one is constantly fucked with there just is no reason to be nicer, it will very likely only lead to more fuckery. it sure is hard to train being nice, probably harder than fixing ones looks. my point of "dumbness is final" still stands though. being dumb probably makes fixing other things even more harder due to lack of introspection.

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