@werwolf @bonifartius there's an argument to be made about making bridges available for people who just want to use x platform regardless of that platform's original intentions
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idk, i have the feeling that clever clients can probably even work with olm (not sure about megolm) or omemo, both are double ratchet algorithms. it would suffice if libolm (or the omemo equivalent?) would support it's counterpart.
the point is, nobody did e2ee groupchats with multiple devices before matrix did it (afaik). things are not impossible. moxies "isn't feasible!" mindset which many have is bullshit. nobody has really tried yet.
also: not having e2ee on small federated servers one trusts connected using secure transports is still better than people using discord or whatever if the lack of e2ee is clearly communicated in the UI.
@bonifartius @chickfilla @werwolf what do you mean by e2ee groupchats with multiple devices? personally I'm not a big fan of Element's often vague and borderline deceiving naming conventions, and Matrix.org and Element's near-monopoly on the servers and clients used respectively. XMPP on the other hand is quite simple and straightforward imo