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@djsumdog it really frightens me that people say it is revisionism to say this is exactly how shit always happened. jews weren't deported in early '33. it started with "don't buy jewish" etc. after a few years and enough propaganda the majority didn't care anymore and rounding jews up for deportation was no problem anymore.

people have no clue about history, even here in germany.

@bonifartius @djsumdog > ur not FORCED to do anything

Well Actually™ you are if you live in austria, as of today i think. anyone who thinks it'll end there is a fool

these fucking "durr hurr i have FAITH in SAINT PFIZER, the POWER OF JESUS H. SCIENCE COMPELS YOU" people grate on my nerves like little else

@velartrill @djsumdog

tbqf, i never met a jesus fan here in germany who wanted to fuck up my life for not being a jesus fan. it's like with the hardcore conspiracy people, they genuinely want to help you and know that you can't be forced. they may talk to you about their stuff all the time but i never met one who told me i am evil incarnate and should have my life ruined or get force injected magic juice.

may be different with the people in the us though, but i never met one of those.

@bonifartius @djsumdog it is somewhat different in the US, but even there most of the jesus freaks just want to save your soul, altho that may involve making your life unlivable and traumatizing you horribly. with hyper-christian parents and their children it's often a different story entirely tho

@velartrill yeah, i remotely know some jehovas witness (or how they are called in english) people and their children don't have fun.
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@bonifartius @djsumdog jehovah's witnesses yeah. they have a bit of a reputation where im from

@bonifartius @velartrill I had a girlfriend in Jena years ago; American who was teaching English. I’m not a Christian, but I had been an evangelical when I was much younger (high school/early University). Honestly her Germany friends from her Bible study were not very different in their faith than the Christians I had known growing up in their basic beliefs, behaviors or moral views.

Of course you always have the few Jesus freaks with their megaphones and signs and cross in every place. I’ve known them in my hometown, and I’ve seen them in London, Wellington (NZ) and other places. But most Christians today are fairly secular. Some evangelize, but many just simply want to be a light onto the world with their lives.

The current wave of woksters, SJWs, genderideologists are in the very early birth of their religious world view .. and early stages of religion are typically evangelical, but also exclusionary and dogmatic.

Christianity did not start off the way it is today. It was made secular over a long amount of time. As people lose that identity (the book The Strange Death of Europe goes into this when talking about mass migration), they seek to redefine their core moral values with something that seems to be the capitol-T Truth; the good news everyone needs to hear and accept, or be silenced for heresy.

@velartrill @djsumdog @bonifartius
You have to (susp)end your life.
Just as you can live without money...

@bonifartius @djsumdog > "never again"
> "how dare you compare anything to the holocaust UR BANNED U FASCIST SCUM"
> "oh no it happened again"
> "nobody could possibly have seen this coming"

@velartrill @bonifartius

“There is always a lesson to learn from the holocaust. We’re always reminded [of] that. Never forget. We’ve learned our lesson. There’s a lesson to be learned. Okay, fair enough. Now, what was the lesson? That’s the question … And the lesson is, you’re the Nazi. That’s the lesson. Really? Really? Oh god, that’s a terrible lesson. But, I don’t see another lesson. Do you? No one wants to learn that. I mean, that’s what I’ve been teaching my students since 1993 … If you would have been there, that would have been you. You think, ‘well I’d be Oskar Schindler, I’d be rescuing the Jews’ … No, I’m afraid not. You’d at least not be saying anything. And you might also be actively participating. You might also enjoy it.” -Jordan Peterson

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