@charlie_root
Except of course that the image you just shared is misinformation in the sense that the international community absolutely has condemned Russia, and that it isn't just "the west"

Also, this you?

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@ScumbagDog
are you sure you mean "misinformation" and not "opinions i don't agree with"?
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@bonifartius

Yep.

Please refer to my first toot as to why it isn't an opinion whether or not Russia has been condemned by the international community.

@ScumbagDog
i think the problem with that is: if the "international community" really stands so close together, why doesn't the west supports the smaller countries so that they don't depend as hard on russia?

my guess is because the west only ever does such things if there is a gain for them or at least it doesn't cost more than peanuts. look at how much is spend on humanitarian and infrastructure aid and how much germany alone now spends on military. it's at best a sick joke if the west claims to have any moral high ground.

@bonifartius
For your info, the west already donates a lot of money in humanitarian aid: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o

Relative to the German military spending in 2019, Germany's humanitarian aid is about half of that.

But sure, "peanuts".

That being said, this is mostly whataboutism. Developing countries can't pick and choose their trading partners, regardless of humanitarian aid.

"Why didn't the west do X"
Well, why didn't Russia just not invade Ukraine?

We can theorise all day.

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> Relative to the German military spending in 2019, Germany's humanitarian aid is about half of that.

fast forward to '22 we will spend 100 000 000 000€ because of russia. if we have a war with russia, it would be WW3 and nobody comes out of that alive. the crazy spending is like throwing money directly into the incinerator.

> Developing countries can't pick and choose their trading partners, regardless of humanitarian aid.

the west could be actively pushing for more (fair!) trade with those countries. nobody to blame but ourselves we didn't do that.

> That being said, this is mostly whataboutism.

fwiw, i think "whataboutism" can be applied to almost anything at this point and invoking it is always a try to "win" a discussion.

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