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@kaia I've stopped long ago. There's only nonsensical and negative news/decisions.
@mangeurdenuage @kaia It's "Freedom Fries" tier warmongering shit all over again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
@mangeurdenuage @Sunliver @kaia tfw no turbine powered cars or hybrid diesels for North America.
Volvo actually sold diesel hybrids in Europe before all the manufactured regulations to ensure you will Own Nothing and Be Happy kicked in.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/volvo/volvo-v60-plug-in-hybrid-2015-long-term-test-review/
60+ MPG for a car that size was even better than the few diesel cars sold in the USA.
Volvo actually sold diesel hybrids in Europe before all the manufactured regulations to ensure you will Own Nothing and Be Happy kicked in.
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/volvo/volvo-v60-plug-in-hybrid-2015-long-term-test-review/
60+ MPG for a car that size was even better than the few diesel cars sold in the USA.
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it's a fucking crime and complete bullshit that diesel is "bad" and battery electric is "good", even regarding emissions.
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@bonifartius @Sunliver @kaia @mangeurdenuage
The other thing that's sus is how it was handled in Europe. In America it wasn't much, it "supposedly" killed diesel cars except the problem is everyone else didn't fucking market theirs that were compliant, and then when the complaint modified TDIs were resold, the competition in terms of diesel cars was 1-2 new models that had to be special ordered and cost far more than $12k at a used car lot. Other diesels in America were big rigs/large pickups and most emission crackdowns from then on were targeted at corporations/fleets and "coal rollers". It didn't help that 30-50 cents a gallon more is a bad sticker shock to many in the "looking at a new car" phase. More just bought gas hybrids to begin with because nobody sold a diesel hybrid that wasn't a bus or big rig.
Europe on the other hand fucked over everyone who was told they were more fuel efficient and that they'd save money at the pump, and then only to get fucked with city bans, high taxes, and more new laws conveniently fucking over anyone who wanted to save money at the pump. Of course they also have more brainwashed people who don't yet know voting won't remove those fucking them over or who think it's a good thing. Or even better they fetishize 15 minute cities.
The other thing that's sus is how it was handled in Europe. In America it wasn't much, it "supposedly" killed diesel cars except the problem is everyone else didn't fucking market theirs that were compliant, and then when the complaint modified TDIs were resold, the competition in terms of diesel cars was 1-2 new models that had to be special ordered and cost far more than $12k at a used car lot. Other diesels in America were big rigs/large pickups and most emission crackdowns from then on were targeted at corporations/fleets and "coal rollers". It didn't help that 30-50 cents a gallon more is a bad sticker shock to many in the "looking at a new car" phase. More just bought gas hybrids to begin with because nobody sold a diesel hybrid that wasn't a bus or big rig.
Europe on the other hand fucked over everyone who was told they were more fuel efficient and that they'd save money at the pump, and then only to get fucked with city bans, high taxes, and more new laws conveniently fucking over anyone who wanted to save money at the pump. Of course they also have more brainwashed people who don't yet know voting won't remove those fucking them over or who think it's a good thing. Or even better they fetishize 15 minute cities.
@Sunliver @kaia @mangeurdenuage
When you look into it the whole Diesel scandal was half real and half manufactured. Real in the sense VW was lying about emissions and caught with a PR campaign, manufactured because EVs greenwash even harder and everyone in academia can't see the double standard.