what's better than drinking some choco milk with NUTRI-SCORE A (very healthy) with only 15% of your daily sugar-allowance from the paper straw (ecological) wrapped in plastic from the TetraPak (ecological), which sadly cannot be recycled since it's a paper-plastic-metal mix.
@kaia don't forget to consume massive amounts of milk daily because, ummm... it's healthy! and the milk cartel obviously doesn't exist!
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@helene
i think at least for europeans it is healthy if it is not treated in all kinds of way, like half fat homogenized ultra-heated.

gut biome and genetics were selected for millennia to digest animal milk and things like cheese, because it was a very important source of food here. my diet is to a big part things from milk with much fat and i feel shitty if i "eat healthy vegan stuff" instead.

of course the milk should be from a good regional source with cows eating good things not 100% corn or stuff like that.

@kaia

@bonifartius @kaia nothing wrong with drinking milk but in france there's a clear issue of excessive diary product consumption under the disguise of "health"

companies lobbying to mandatorily have diary products in school cafeteria, pushing a lot of ads on TV and disguising themselves as state health warnings, etc

milk and dairy are fine, i like cheese, yogurt, milk of course but there's a clear issue with the companies producing those products doing very fishy stuff
@bonifartius @helene @kaia
>my diet is to a big part things from milk with much fat and i feel shitty
That's mainly because today's milk is sterilized, the beneficial bacteria that it brought in the past is destroyed in the sterilization process.
And besides that, most cows these days aren't feed well.
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