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that's moot though as you can just have a "rogue" client logging everything in a public room. it's moot precisely because public chats are for talking in public. if you just hand everyone the keys who asks, there is no point in it except for larp.

- crypt everything because white noise!: the traffic is still https.

- OMG matrix.org sees everything!: of course they see the channels messages if a client from matrix.org participates. blacklist/firewall/whatever matrix.org servers if you don't want that. no problem.

- but the history is readable!: yes, which might exactly be what is required for a public channel. also, see the log-bot-argument further up.

see, matrix can be used to replace open-for-all discord channels using un-encrypted public channels while also it can be used for smaller private channels with e2ee enabled.

i really don't see any problem. if one has a risk profile requiring further protection a chat platform just might not be what one should be using anyway.