Some point is made, then widely made.
Some people do it in a toxic way, possibly relating to their internal emotional economy, and are annoying online.
Then those are magnified and given a name like SJW/"woke" or whatever name is most sticky, and it is pretended their existence means the point made is invalid.
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@jasper a cause turns foul the moment the (supposedly sane) masses supporting it don't control the SJW/woke/whatever people in their midst out if fear of being targeted by them. allowing them to destroy other peoples lives fore mere disagreement.
the moment members use coercion that's when a cause turns foul.
so, the point is made invalid. the idea isn't good enough that people like it, they need to be forced. be it "gendering speech", the covid "vaccine", etc. as soon as there is force involved, it turns into bullshit by the doing of it's proponents.
@bonifartius also there is the question if the behavior of proponents of an idea has bearing on the idea. I think yes, but mostly indirectly; i.e. a bad idea can cause bad behavior or "bad" people adopt bad ideas..
But harmful behavior might also be caused by other things that happen to correlate. Or be directly related. For instance someone claiming their spouse abused them might have struck back at points.. It doesn't necessarily negate the point.
@bonifartius the beliefs are directly about how you should treat people. If you act rude and with no regard to peoples' feelings people are going to respond negatively about it.
If these people felt very uncomfortable in their gender assigned at birth, it's very rude to remind them of it.