If you fly by jet to your eco tourism vacation you have aleady failed
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@Moon this is my pet peeve! ecotards flying around the globe for bullshit but my car needs to go.

@bonifartius @Moon Same with the argument that eating meat is killing the planet coming from people who don't grow food.
I would trade by car for a lifetime supply of hamburger. 🤨
I hate it when liberals who commute tell me that I'm killing the planet. I literally live 2 miles from my office, I work from home most days, and most hearings are via zoom since covid. I hardly drive. I do eat a lot of steak though.
The irony with cow farts is that the cattle population is roughly equal to the bison population before we slaughtered them. So it's carbon neutral really.
Eat more steak. Stop their farts from destroying the ozone layer.

@thatguyoverthere @Moon the absolutism is the bullshit. people probably eat too much meat, but eating sone meat is a necessity if you want do agriculture on soil and in climates where only grass grows without using loads of artificial fertilizer.

@bonifartius @Moon I won't even say people eat too much meat (some may), but I do think the ways we farm could be improved to limit runoff and make it easier for the local environment to filter the waste. Smaller herds on grass instead of a feed lot would give us better (healthier) meat and be kinder to the planet.
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