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@lupyuen to be honest, i'd rather see them finally deploying enough 4G so that i'll have coverage everywhere instead of investing in the next thing, but it's such an oglyopoly here they really don't have a reason to invest anything 🤷 that 3G is phased out meanwhile just means that there is either 4G service or 2G, which isn't really cutting it anymore 😛

regarding the politicians, they are still aboard the 5G hype-train i fear 🙂

@tedu i recently saw a sign asking people to return their beverage bottles (container-deposit-system) to prevent a shortage of bottles :)

@lupyuen but nobody buys their 5G equipment anymore out of fearing espionage, as if the other countries which produce such things (i don't know if any but the USA are left) would spy less 😁

i'm not sure if the demand for 5G is fabricated by china, since a few years ago politicians in europe were/are hyped for anything that gives them an edge over the dominance of the USA, including IOT, blockchain, really anything "cyber" 😉

@lupyuen i haven't really thought about that. maybe then they finally have a reason for widespread camera rollout: "now that we have this fine 5G network, we've gotta use it!!1" :)

@lupyuen supposedly IOT, but i don't really see a must-have use-case which isn't covered by wifi (appliances), 4G (agricultural) or industrial (4G/wifi)..

@feld and, by extension, not using an existing application protocol, but creating new ones for the purpose. i know that isn't whats sexy today, but well designed protocols are a really nice thing.

@feld i was more going for IPv6 rollout and, e.g. using it's multicast features for those things ;)

@feld i hope in the future we have better things than http. like, protocols which are build for their usecase, not something repurposed for things it was never made for. http is used everywhere just because of shitty firewalls and nats, not because it is an exceptionally well designed protocol for any usecase.

@sir sure, the things are cargo culted. i was just stating that it may be hard to not do it, even if you want to, because nearly the whole industry is sold on it and you've got to make a living 💁

@sir i don't think it can be called cargo culting if it's not what oneself believes to be better but what others want of you (and you are forced to do so to earn money). it could be argued that one shouldn't do that, but that's a bit unrealistic if you depend on the job/customer.

@sir one problem though is that small teams do this too, sometimes not even just out of cargo culting. it is kind of expected today that things are shipped using docker (or one of the other things). that the current mainstream linux distributions are pushing these things makes it even harder not to do it, as one has to additionally fight the ecosystem then, which not everybody has the time to do.
this doesn't make the whole situation better acceptable though.

@redlaserbm i've had made an account on another instance a while ago, but quit the whole thing soon after, as the instance was regrettably more of an echo-chamber and filtering many parts of the fediverse. i'd rather decide what is filtered for myself, out of principle.

up until a few days ago when i was fed up with twitter seemingly consisting of ads and people throwing shit at each other. then i was browsing stuff by @lupyuen , read the about page of qoto.org and thought i'll give it another try. i'm rather pleased to far :)

@a7 @redlaserbm i find it interesting that people choose to be censored (either by twitter or by those servers of the fediverse which do so). considering this, it's a bit ironic that censorship only speeds up our decent into dystopia, which is the exact opposite of what this self-inflicted censorship is supposed to prevent.

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