bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@feld @realcaseyrollins @takao i still use claws, the absence of bullshit with the amount of features is great. haven't had problems with it in the ~15 years i use it. on windows i used pegasus mail 🦄

@trinsec

my issue with "the greater good" are these points:

- "good" is really flexible in it's definition

- we (humanity) tried it often enough. it almost never worked in a way which one would consider moral in retrospective. it's seductive to do things for "the greater good" because it makes one _feel_ good. taking action "for the cause" combined with "no pain no gain". i'd say it's at the time of not going down that well trodden path and thinking of other solutions, especially if it's regarding the bodily integrity of people.

@galena @freemo @b6hydra @skells

@thor well, it's how i sound like when speaking english :D

@skells
> we have a responsibility, to ourselves and future generations, to strip power from those who abuse it

you'll only end up in a dark prison cell. just look at assange et al.

i think you only can choose not to play along with the way that our societies are by trying to be more self-reliant. the real power governments have is that many people rely on them instead of providing for themselves.

it's just incredibly hard to do, as the state-oligarchy complex is build with the intention that you have to rely on them.

@skells i'm disillusioned by how the whole covid thing is handled. i think the governments are _really_ happy that now the population is essentially in shackles, and i think save an uprising it will be this way for the foreseeable future. it's only convenient to have the not vaccinated as scapegoats now. as long as they exist, anything can be done because of the pandemic.

it would be really interesting to see what would happen if really everyone is vaccinated and covid doesn't go away (as it probably won't). who to blame then? how to keep the population in half-assed lock-downs lasting for several months then?

would be really interesting to see a game theoretical analysis of the whole situation, but i think it's too complex.

in the end, anyone with power will abuse it. i believe it's just in the human nature.

@skells technically, almost always yes. in the end they have the bigger guns (legal _and_ physical).

ist die welt aber die fronten sind ja eh verschwommen inzwischen ;)
https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article232900871/Corona-Pathologe-fordert-mehr-Obduktionen-von-Geimpften.html

@dewomser mich regt auf das einerseits jeder der irgendwie skeptisch bzgl. der mrna impfungen ist "unwissenschaftlich" ist, aber wenn sich politiker über die stiko hinwegsetzen ist das _was ganz anderes_. wirklich helfen tut letztlich eh nur maske und abstand, aber so richtig wahrhaben will das wohl keiner.