bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@parisc wirths books are good AND readable, can recommend.

@onan @cee solstice ;)

@trinsec point 2. and 3. are more or less facts.. we ordererd additional vaccine doses for 2.2 billion € iirc.
pharma would be idiotic to say everyone is safe now :)

so are the governments who continue to burn money on vaccines instead of putting it directly into the hospitals. just imagine what you can do for 2.2 billion. very likely things that save more lifes.

@verl

@swiley i'll tag you the next time xD

@trinsec
> Those jokes are always considered gallows humor, not just 'now'. Even I make very dark jokes sometimes and won't act upon it. It's just a way of venting harmlessly. Though best not done in public like those dumb jokesters have done, but that's obviously why they have piped down so you could barely hear them.

sure, dark humor is fine. it's just that usually if you make jokes about nearly any group (except few) you are considered "nazi" (for a lack of better word).

gallows humor can only be made by those who have the noose around their neck, not the ones operating the lever.
(eris said this too but i guess you probably blocked kiwifarms).

> Social media IS the worst of society. You can't take it seriously. Something about feeling invulnerable because you're anonymous.

it's even people i know from work who "like" this stuff. even if i don't know them, it's still someone writing this stuff in public. people have been canceled for much less. these get praise and not a twitter ban.

> And you get scared and uncomfortable after reading all that bullshit. And you're forwarding it right here. My suggestion? Take a break from the internet if it affects you that much.

i don't know, but a chancellor in germany saying there are "no red lines" anymore is kinda concerning for me. it isn't covid which scares me, it isn't some people on the internet. it's that it's accepted that rights can be given and taken on a whim by the deus ex machinae our governments are and a large majority likes this and wants more of the "strong leadership".

@trinsec
> Having concerns about mrna-vaccines isn't new. Freemo had the same. He went with a vector-vaccine (Johnsson) instead. He got a vaccine later too (only a few months ago?). Having concerns about 'new' vaccination methods (mrna is a bit older than most people realise) doesn't make you a bad person.

vector too is new, i discussed that with freemo recently. mrna technology isn't new, but every attempt at building vaccines with it were unsuccessful (like the current ones are after a few months). that's why biontech was nearly bankrupt before covid.

> Though you'll find to have less and less excuse nowadays, heh. Just recently the novavax vaccine got approved in the EU, which is even more traditional than mrna and vector.

i don't seek excuses, it's called informed consent. like i've written, i might have taken novavax as it isn't an active (compared to mrna/vector) vaccine. i would have taken sinovac (which has been available in many parts of the world for a long time now..) my inclination doesn't grow with each of these occurences though.

"*shrug"

@verl
though i agree that omicron variant really seems to be causing mild symptoms. some south african scientists said that the western panic response is dumb and that this variant is likely a good thing because of creating widespread natural immunity.

@trinsec

@verl i'd be interested in that paper!

@verl if it were for only myself i wouldn't really care, but there are others i live with who _might_ have more severe cases. can't be asshole to people who are nice to you.

@trinsec

@trinsec and i started out this year with "yeah, mrna is too hot for me, i'll just wait for inactive vaccines". this is what a year of being told by politicians and media that i'm a bad person does. it's not a good excuse for my bad behaviour, but shouldn't have happened in the first place.