bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@thor "uncle sams wonky world" :) @naruciakk

@m0urs das ist einfach zu erklären: die welle war diesmal nen monat früher (s. bild). genau vor einem jahr passt dann halb so hoch.

sowas sollte man fake news nennen.

@CapitalB
> You mean 2012/2014 when any online structure got invaded. Partially by something awful/tumblr, partially offline.

yeah, seems i mean 2012: https://geekfeminism.fandom.com/wiki/Chaos_Communications_Congress_29_incidents

(they can't even get an own wiki running, true haxXx0r spirit..)

> But there was a phase especially during the Trump years where they were more active than before. No wonder they colluded with the commies in 2020 and supported the covid cert and app. And no word we ever heard from them.

the unconditional support of the organized german hacker community for almost every of the measures is a disgrace, especially the digital stuff. this should only be handled with paper based methods. they should be on the barricades about the idea of a vaccination register, but will probably be the ones to implement it.

> For me, just for me, I also think a lot of really fat nerds are scared shitless for months bc of their risk profile and want it to stop. They know.

fun thing is, the fat hacker is a bad meme. i've seen far more extra slim ones because they forgot to eat :)

in the end the covid stuff was good, because now we know who can be trusted not to act like a psychopath (hint: not many). was a good filter for me.

@CapitalB CCC is defunct since more than two years. imo, the breaking point was the influx of "progressives" into the events like congress which resulted in things like a post-it-penis being a big deal because "diScriMinAtiOn" and the organizers not laughing about it but creating a shadow council of people who can kick you out at a whim.

@thor
> i don’t know about that. America started getting visibly wonky at least as early as 9/11.

indeed, but from what i recall obama was made fun of etc. but the idea that he was illegitimately president was not widely accepted. after trump won the democrats had a real meltdown with all the talk about vote fraud and russian psyops. that was pandoras box, and might be their undoing.

> what i’m seeing is a two-sided propaganda war, and it’s unclear to me who started it.

from my pov, many things i read from the republican side is more like the classic "freedom ends where my freedom begins" stance, where democrats want to force approval of certain ideas by regulation.

> it might be an exaggeration to say that Trump flat out endorsed autocratic regimes, but his chummy way of namedropping them was most certainly unusual. he has a very unorthodox style. as for peace in general, US presidents have a mixed record. one thing his presidency caused was concern within NATO that the US is no longer a reliable partner. he also withdrew the US from the Paris Agreement, which was signed by every single country in the world, and the WHO. these actions looked pretty bizarre, from the POV of the rest of the world.

imho NATO is evil. agreements with russia over not expanding further east are broken. if this would be the other way around, NATO would already have started a war. i think it trump reducing NATO involvement actually was a good idea, at least for reducing the chances of WW3.

paris agreement isn't worth the paper it's printed on. china alone does more to reduce their impact on the co2 emissions (e.g. by big wind energy rollout) than any country in the west, all while being the factory of the world. WHO by large isn't as trustworthy as it has been, because it accepts contributions (and thus control) by oligarchs.

> i think “bizarre” is a pretty good description of Trump’s presidency. “does he know what he is saying? does he know what he is doing?”

bizarre is a good description. it was more fun than now though, at least from the outside :)

@thor this article gives me heart palpitations.

my view from europe:

the US left has started the fucking fire with their "trump is not my president" bullshit. now they are complaining about the exact same thing, that people don't accept biden.

> Stack the supreme court, end the filibuster, make Washington DC a state, and let the dogs howl, and now, before it is too late. The moment the right takes control of institutions, they will use them to overthrow democracy in its most basic forms; they are already rushing to dissolve whatever norms stand in the way of their full empowerment.

i call bullshit on this. the idea to just abandon old stuff and it will magickally prevent bad shit ™️ from happening is idiotic, short sighted and will lead to an even worse situation.

how about not pushing "progressive" agendas by force and at all cost. how about not talking social justice and at the same time throw normies in front of the bus.

trump (and he's a serial fraudster!) was more sincere than any democrat i can remember. trump did more for world peace, with unconventional methods, than any democrat i can remember. what is wrong with _talking_ with NK? obama bombed so many people in the middle east and got the peace prize. ffs.

welp, organized hacker culture had a good run.

ccc invaded by rainbow agenda politricks instead of real topics. defcon on fucking discord.

@r000t it doesn't stop with talking on the internet. every place formerly meritocratic is now ruled by rainbow bullshit, just look at what the ccc congress has become. just a big safe space where people are valued by their appearances, the diverse the better. actual interesting tech content (or anti censorship) is rare.

@r000t bullshit started with "social media" being used for self presentation based on superficial qualities and not meritocracy. everything has been downhill since then.