bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@admin turok!

@meinemeinung am schönsten war gestern die meldung bei der tagesschau das die erzeugerpreise seit 1949 (oder so) nie so stark gefallen sein und das gute nachrichten für verbraucher sein.

das heisst das die erzeuger ihre waren nicht loswerden. klingt nach massiver deflation. das endet nicht gut.

i think one of my favorite german proverbs right now is "Pack schlägt sich, Pack verträgt sich". from fedi drama to politics it's always spot on.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pack_schl%C3%A4gt_sich,_Pack_vertr%C3%A4gt_sich

@realcaseyrollins i'd say it's due to negative experiences, almost every condition is.

@freemo no harm done!

it's sometimes a bit complicated to accurately put my ideas into proper english, especially when it's getting a bit late here (i'm certainly too tired to type up an answer for all points :)

i had a friend who moved out with 16 which was the right thing for him. if i'd moved out with 16 it would've been a garbage-fire :)

@freemo
i'll admit my post is a verging on rant :)

the rules for this self-determination and bodily autonomy are de facto decided by the state. as soon as ideas are declared law it will be applied by force, no matter how outlandish those ideas might be.

i won't argue that there are no evil people abusing their children. those cases are covered by self-defense (of others).

my point is that now it's not about preventing people beating or otherwise abusing their children anymore.

it's now about _coercing_ parents into _allowing_ their children to do things, some with with permanent consequences they can't even fully comprehend. which is _exactly_ what parents are supposed to prevent.

that's why it's generally assumed that children can't sign contracts, etc. their self-determination and bodily autonomy is limited to protect them from fucking up their lives. it should be limited by the parents because it's a very reasonable assumption that in general parents are those with a genuine interest in having the best long-term outcome for their offspring. the ideas about _how_ might differ of course. the alternative is socialism, the removal of cultural and ideological differences.

finally, a state always is weaponized by those in control of it. it is the very purpose of having a state after all :)

the flipside of "you have no right to decide for your children REEEEEEEEE" no one admits is that this replaces parents who in the _overwhelming majority_ of cases will instinctually protect their offspring vs. the weaponized bullshit state which is in the best case scenario interested in cheap worker drones of the future - more likely in more sinister plots involving meat grinder wars and the like.

@reverend sieht eher aus wie das gruselkabinett vom jahrmarkt :)

people laugh at me for using but at least i know what is happening