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@trinsec i always wonder how much of this is due to people being forced to work at times which are against their natural sleeping cycle.

i have the (pet-)theory that the different times when people sleep are a remainder of our evolutionary past. it makes sense that someone is awake at every point to alert the ones sleeping if there's danger (and other things like childcare, etc.)

would be interesting if there's any research on this.

@dewomser man kann auch kriege mitbeschliessen ohne an die massiven umweltkonsequenzen zu denken. da machen die paar kabelbinder auch nix.

@jgoerzen well, if they can't be bothered to invest more than 10 minutes, they are choosing this by themselves. hard problems don't have easy, comfortable solutions.

signal is big tech, they have more money than they could count, are more or less closed source (you don't know what the.server runs, 3rd party clients are verboten) and behave like all knowing assholes.

@ultem yip. in the end most jobs tend to suck, but with it it's a special kind of suck.

saw someone call Discord "an irc app" and now I am experiencing emotions

@agentcasey yeah and it doesn't need many ressources.

for the connection of both worlds, there is a mumble web client i'm wanting to try out. it uses a proxy which puts the stream over a websocket (or the dreaded webrtc). could be nice to have for people who don't usually use mumble.

@agentcasey ok, fair enough :) i just know that people hate the irc bridge as it seems to convert messages bigger than the irc limit to useless "read here" links.

matrix and discord are like two opposites :) one open in source and build with bridgeing in mind, the other is completely closed.

matrix is more like sip wrt voice chats. in the core protocol it's just another message type :)

@agentcasey @solene

matrix user who cares for "ancient" technology here.

the problem is that good bridging is hard.

i know that the current irc bridge is kind of shit, that's why i don't use it. i would build a better one, but have not enough time. i'd like to have irc channels in my matrix client without bothering folks at those channels.

i used xmpp for a really long time, but back then there were too many problems with mobile use and e2ee, so everybody i cared about stopped using it.

matrix came along, and suddenly i can securely talk to people, on my mobile AND on my desktop, without having to use centralized things like telegram or signal.

matrix solves these modern problems okish (it isn't without flaws) while acknowledging that there are other systems which people use and trying to couple with those.

@dewomser acme.sh tut ziemlich verlässlich als letsencrypt client, falls du in stimmung bist das komplett umzustellen

I'll do a painting demo live for the Matrix Foundation, don't miss it!
On Wednesday 2021-03-10 6pm UTC (7pm in Berlin; 6pm in the UK; 1pm in New York; 10am in California)
All info: matrix.org/open-tech-will-save
#krita @matrix

@cereal wenn man sagt das etwas entwürdigend ist, gibt man wieder die verantwortung an die höhere macht ab :)

@cereal würde ist halt auch schön "normbar", selbstbestimmung nicht. "hast doch essen und n bett, das reicht erstmal an würde" 💁

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