bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@thor i think if you don't want/can't be normie you are fucked everywhere

@thor you described my feverish dreams well :D

@thor i have a special relationship to james brown after a neighbour loudly played it all afternoon while i was down with the flu and had 40°C fever :D

@thor i don't really know arduinos, but iirc with msp430 it was just writing one or two registers describing the pulse and setting the pin to pwm output. the .h files were also okish imo. maybe you can offload the hardware-talking parts to something like that and only use the bigger microcontroller to tie everything together.

@bonifartius @thor forgot beans and egg stuff.. propably combined with potatoes ;)

and what are your favourites?

@thor anything with potatoes

@comrad nee, brauchen wir sinnvolle erziehung und eine abkehr von höher schneller weiter (und eine exekutive die nicht total unterbesetzt ist und sich auch um die sachen "ohne opfer" wie umweltverschmutzung kümmern kann..)

bisschen produktiver: nem angler könnte man tatsächlich sogar vllt. mit umweltaspekten kommen. jäger sind da ja z.b. auch ganz aktiv bei sinnvollen dingen.

@comrad

achtung wird arg pöbelig:

da steht ein schild das durchfahrt verboten ist, die polizei wird wegen sowas nicht kommen, gearscht ist am ende wieder die natur. wie z.B. letzte woche beim spaziergang die masken die ins naturschutzgebiet geworfen wurden. verteilt sich ja und ich darf die dann als depp aufsammeln.

diesen leuten ist eh alles scheissegal weil sie sonst _nie_ konsequenzen für beschissenes verhalten auf kosten anderer kassieren. hauptsache man selbst kann machen was man will.

ich bin echt langsam durch mit andere backe hinhalten bei sowas.

@comrad einfach mal die luft ausm reifen lassen? da muss man dann auch kein schloss rumschleppen 😉

ich bin ja selbst autofahrer und mich nerven die ganzen arschlöcher richtig an. ist mit covid auch alles eher schlimmer geworden. alle zuviel zeit, zuwenig zutun und aggressiv.

das schlimmste ist dass die polizei bei sowas nur mit achselzucken reagiert. wenn sie nicht selbst anwesend sind können sie nix machen wegen beweislage 💁

@Shiroyasha they are, we have a swarm of starlings here currently :D

@redstarfish i think someone here talked about base2tone color themes, may be of interest for you https://base2t.one/

@thor it's a wire which cuts the cheese

@thor well, it is a cheese slicer ;) http://osti.dk/

@thor a reason to love the danes: osti

@jmw150

NB: i tend to be overly critical about everything ;)

i'll just answer to both of your replies here.

i have no problem with probability based logics, but NNs are a different kind of beast imho.

it's one thing to have a sound logic system which accounts for probabilities, and another if you just let your evolutionary algorithm tune itself to match a dataset.

to quote the quote from your link:

> “By quantifying uncertainty, we’re getting closer to designing the novel transparent systems that can function in high-stakes environments. Our goal here is to create a principled approach for robust machine learning – in theory and practice.”

it sounds to me like "yeah, the neural nets do things we don't understand, lets just hedge the bet". i strongly assume there can be inputs to those systems which give you false high certainty values.

i still stand by my opinion that neural nets are a local optimum of parallel algorithms. they are hyped so they see much research. if efficiency was the main interest there would be more research upon _how to design_ good parallel algorithms instead of how to fix shortcomings of neural nets.

@jmw150 i'd be in favour of teaching the low level stuff rather more than less. look at the state of how programming is done today in reality. it's bad abstractions stacked upon each other, the usual fix is to throw more hardware onto it.

secondly, while there are valid applications of neural nets, you end up with a statistic black box. this isn't desireable for the majority of things where you'd rather have a proveable solution, which only a classic algorithm can give you (be it parallel or not).

imho, parallel algorithms is topic which is really interesting but shadowed by "throw a neural net into it!". neural nets are just evolutionary algorithms parallelized, it's kind of boring in a sense.

@thor akshually electrons are affected by the warped space time due to gravity!!!111 ;P

i thought we were discussing the water analogy. i think it's okish to teach people about electricity, but every analogy has its limitations.