bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@social.cleverlibre.org

@tripu
> To reiterate: what exactly is preventing a group of hundreds or thousands of like-minded anarchocapitalists from implementing their ideas in a small closed community (within the boundaries of the law imposed by the parent jurisdiction)?

the boundaries of the parent jurisdication, starting with taxation continuing with other laws about what you can own etc.. you'd have a constant drain of value without anything in return because of taxation.

also, they'll find a reson to fuck with you. no guns for you. no drugs for you. no explosives for you. no distilling alcohol. no growing of tobacco.

after all, what would happen if people notice that anarchy works? can't allow that!

_but_ for a limited amount of time and in limited ways these things work rather well. i went to small/medium music festivals where people were motivated to work together and not be a trouble to others and it worked maybe only because there is much money put into it upfront? still nice!

@DCR stimmt vollkommen!

ich find es erstaunlich wie sie das im kopf hinbekommt gleichzeitig zu glauben sie hat etwas nicht gesagt und stolz darauf zu sein es gesagt zu haben.

das ist doppeldenk wie aus dem buch! :)

@tripu
> Still, isn’t is suspicious that there aren’t at least a bunch of long-lasting, functioning libertarian experiments where members voluntarily ditch outer courts and laws, shun subsidies and quotas of any kind, rely on an inner grey market to conceal income and wealth as much as possible, rely solely on voluntary agreements among them, etc?
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> With so many passionate supporters worldwide, why isn’t that happening, at least to the extent it’s feasible within the framework of existing jurisdictions?

short answer: because the much larger body of statists send people with guns having no problem with shooting others for not participating.

if you need a central enforcing thing you have just another oppressive system.

e.g. with private streets you need a contract to use them which may include "needs a certificate and insurance". those things aren't unfixable problems, they often only appear this way as we only know how it's done currently.

mutualist cooperations where people have ownership worked pretty well in the past.

anything without ownership ("anarcho"-syndicalism/communism) requires coercion and is not anarchism.

you really only need ownership, universal non violence and _if_ you are attacked by someone not adhering to that the right for proper self defense. everything else follows from that.

i stumble onto videos of him every so often and they for the most part are pretty fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjSN8ig_EHI

the pressure washer trick is pretty neat. will try to remember that if i get into metal working :)

looks like the coked up finnish catgirl lost, eh?

jasses, das ist bis jetzt an mir vorbeigegangen. ich hab selten so eine verlogene falsche entschuldigung gehört wie diese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4QIFFS53Rc

@CapitalB

@niclas @toiletpaper well we had the #wirhabenmitgemacht ("we have participated") hash tag in germany going where people posted screenshots of people asking for all kinds of evil things be done to dissenters. there was/is a website too.

suffice to say that using that tag and the website were quickly declared "lists of enemies" which are unlawful with quite hefty sentences. at worst it could mean three years in jail iirc.

i don't think anyone really got sentenced, but the very idea to sue someone for posting screenshots of something someone said on a public platform is dystopian. most people cheered for more hard action back then. now most people outright deny that they cheered, like you said.

and that's why i don't have much pity with people with vaccine injuries.