On the picket line (in the rain) this morning trying to ask uni's for better conditions, pay and pensions for uni staff. Hard to see how we will retain staff or encourage students this is a good career choice if things continue as is. #ExeterUCU #UCURising #UCU #FalmouthUCU
Politics/Universities
@b_longdon @cyrilpedia Being a unionist in France, I feel committed to support but this is awkward for me to retoot, given the political nature of the post: my followers are following me for scientific/community building reasons and may disagree on other topics, which I respect.
I'd feel confident to retoot if original post was under a #CW such as this one.
I'm not saying I know how to do things properly, we as a community need to find the right path. What do you think?
Politics/Universities
@jocelyn_etienne @b_longdon I can't speak for the original poster here, but I will be reserving CW tags for potentially offensive content (though I can't really see what that would be at the moment, I'm sure there will at the very least be some creative profanity from a David Simon type that I might boost) or distressing images or text (for example, clinical images or news item with violent content).
@cyrilpedia @b_longdon
#CW or not for politics: That's a choice I respect of course, and I guess it is good that everyone has his own cursor for that within a reasonable range - and then people will choose to follow or not.
Then, for the person re-tooting, the problem comes when the cursor of the other is less strict than one's own.
Possibly a feature request could be to allow adding a CW at the time of retooting, allowing some middle way?
(for this reply, I can choose 'Public' and no CW...!)
@jocelyn_etienne @b_longdon I'm not sure how that would work - wouldn't it be similar to a quote-tweet, which as I understand it, cannot be done.
@cyrilpedia @b_longdon Then what one can still always do is make a CWed reply, which has also the advantage to bring one's perspective to the matter.
@jocelyn_etienne @b_longdon I don't object in principle in any way - we are all trying to be civil here and curate our own timelines in a way that people know what to expect from them. I just don't think it is technically feasible at the moment (but I'm new here, and still learning my way around). Because I assume most of my community (I hate the term followers and maybe this migration is a great time to dump it) knows me from the bird site, they know it's mostly science but spiked with history, art, literature and, yes, politics.
@quokka @tfardet If I understood correctly the policy of our server, the toot at the top should have been CWed if I had issued it on https://scicomm.xyz :
"Posts should be wrapped if they include content which is: a controversial or highly charged topic, e.g. politics"
Now what do you recommend in terms of retooting? Is reply withing a CW the only/best option?
Beyond scicomm I'm interested as I'm still thinking of uni-hosted servers whioch should have a policy on this.
@cyrilpedia
@jocelyn_etienne @quokka @tfardet I don't really know enough to recommend (I'm on a different server)
@cyrilpedia sure, sorry if I didn't make clear question is for my server mods - but you still may be interested in their answer (I'm was not sure whether I should have left your handle in post, yet another question of fine-grained etiquette!)
@jocelyn_etienne This is turning into a period comedy of manners as well all try to learn the etiquette of the realm :)
Image caption: from film Ridicule, 1996 -- captioning also part of the etiquette here! ;-)
CW meta
@jocelyn_etienne this is academia related and most relevant for people in a difficult situation so I would not ask people who feel it's important to CW this (though it is also a punctual event which would make it a reason to do so).
Don't know if @quokka has another opinion...
As for keeping @cyrilpedia in the loop, that's up to you, most people don't mind being remove unless it's to say bad things behind their back, usually ;)
I'd have removed them because it's not relevant to their post
CW meta
@jocelyn_etienne @quokka as for sharing it, CW requirements are mostly for public posts, whenever you reply (unlisted as is should be ;D) or boost things, it does not appear on the timeline, so we usually don't mind what you do.
In that case, I suggest you CW or not, in conscience, depending on what you think is best for the people following you
@cyrilpedia @jocelyn_etienne feel free to unfollow or just ignore the post. Probably more to come. All the best.
@b_longdon @cyrilpedia @jocelyn_etienne I know nothing of Jocelyn, but Cyrilpedia is not allowed to unfollow
@marcdionne @b_longdon @jocelyn_etienne As a card carrying, dues paying member of the Marc's Minions fan club, I don't see that I have any choice in the matter
Politics/Universities
@b_longdon @cyrilpedia Sorry Ben to have answered your post not so much about its content but about a question of etiquette applying to *my* retooting or not: now I conclude I'm CW-replying.
On the content then, as a trade unionist in France #CFDT and former UK research staff, I fully support #UCURising and wish you all the best in that.
@cyrilpedia @b_longdon Hmm, yes, that's true it's close to that. I was just thinking of an alternative "🔃 CW" button and one enters a warning before retooting, but then yes both from the ActivityPub technical perspective and from the user experience one this is getting close to quote-tweet. Well.