There were some Kia EVs parked outside a local mall yesterday. How did cars become almost £60k each?

@andycarolan you’ve always been able to pay crazy money. I recall Audi launching a car in 1998 that cost more than my house.

@Wifiwits The pricing of expensive cars seem to have trickled down into general family cars though.

@andycarolan maybe. I’m not sure it has. Certainly you have the option of spending a LOT of money on a Kia, which startles people who still see them as a budget brand, but the Ceed estate starts at £21k, the Soul EV starts at £32, the horribly named Stonic from £20k. The £10-12k EV premium seems to stubbornly stick around despite battery costs falling.

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@Wifiwits @andycarolan Hybrids seem clunky to me but have their place. In-laws got one last year and saw immediate reduction in fuel spending. And obviously local emissions reduced as it tends to use the battery.

OTOH - weight and increased damage on roads is another factor to consider.

@andycarolan @davoloid yeah I’m not a fan of them for a variety of reasons, often the worst of all worlds, but agree with you. My parents are about to get one and it will represent an immediate emissions improvement over their diesel.

@davoloid I like the idea of hybrids, and that's about as green as I could go with the difficulty in plugging a car in at my home (shared car park, difficult in getting close to my house) @Wifiwits

@andycarolan @davoloid the key thing about a hybrid is it’s just a petrol car, albeit one that manages to harvest a bit of otherwise wasted energy to improve efficiency. Plug in hybrids are beneficial imho as they can be used for short journeys without burning fuel, but that doesn’t help your situation.

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