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@adiz @don @rbe_expert It depends on the western support for Ukraine. The west has been very shy in that support. It is telling when you review the support by % of GDP: the former eastern bloc leads: All small countries that know what to expect from the empire. Meanwhile the likes of Macron and Sholtz are playing politics an "talking on the phone" and "keeping the channels open". Clowns. US has their own reasons for their support - they already carried the burden of one cold war - perhaps they don't want another.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert Nothing *should* be done to a country. The tzar will fall off a window when they lose the war. There will be a brief struggle between the oligarchs (because in their authoritarian government there are no rules of succession) and then a fission process will occur, splitting Chechnia and other parst of ruZZia. It is possible China to take Siberia. So what they deserve will happen all by itself. What should be done is just one thing - help them lose the war

@adiz @don @rbe_expert not at all. I would feel the same about any country killing people that want to be free. It just so happens that I have a particulary long history with ruZZia an md ruZZian lies

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I haven't even started yet with all the ruZZian crimes of the last 50 years. The most awful crime IMNSHO is the disregard of the individual. Treating their own people like meat that exists only for the sake of advancing the goals of the tzar. This absolutist mentality was erradicated in the west a long time ago. So I can see North Korea or China very well in this role. US had done some pretty outrageous things in Latin America and the Middle East. Britain in the past too. But you are not going to turn full ruZZian troll here asking: "And what about..."? Right? That's not an afgument at all. putler has destroyed the European security architecture existing since the ww2 and I, as an European and a citizen of a country, that's a victim of the ruZZian imperialism will not play with hypotheticals in my ivory tower while there is an acive ruZZian plot to destabilize my own country and enslave me and my family. Fuck ruZZia, fuck putler, prigozin and the whole Kremlin. Let tgem burn!

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I don't understand what it means ruZZia not being fascist. RuZZia has killed innocent civilians in Ukraine, has bombed shelters, schools, kindergardens and hospitals. Has destroyed civil infrastructure, has deported children from the occupied territories, has killed and raped and tortured prisoners. Has burned Ukrainian textbooks and has prosecuted ukrainian teachers. Has turned on its own citizen, sending them into prison for long time for even a minor critique of the war (which they officially refuse to call "war")... The ruZZian big bussiness is divided by several oligarchs - friends of tzar putler... In my oppinion all this is evil motivated by personal greed and vanity of the tzar... By his dreams of a great empire full of serfs... So I don't understand the question. What is supposed to not be true?

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I've read the page some time ago, when I was interested in it. So, in your oppinion because there are many definitions of something means that something does not exist? Fine. Replace fascism with a long list of verifiable wrongs and crimes ruZZia has done... I already said I don't care for labels. The labes are just shortcuts.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert My english becomes a terrible mess when I type quickly on phone. "peaceful" ... it is not.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert you can start educating yoursef here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

@adiz @don @rbe_expert here's a video from a "pieceful" ruZZian school:

@adiz @don @rbe_expert why? It's fun for me to engage ruZZian trolls... You are going down so hard soon....

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I can easily provide examples from my own country for ruZZian influence on all levels even in government. The left parties are all pro-ruZZian to the point of distorting history itself. There is rampant corruption, that is traceable to ruZZian influence (ruZZian infrastructure projects). Political destabilization through pro-ruZZian parties... The majority of the media are pushing ruZZian propaganda. There are european organizations that work on identifying the propaganda, why dont you go and look that up? Why you don't go and read some Bellingcat investigations? Nah... that's not objective enough... It has to be signed by putler himself to believe it...

@adiz @don @rbe_expert you are not trying anything. You are just wasting my time

@adiz @don @rbe_expert wtf are you BOTting about? Everyone sees in ruZZia people get in prison for just mentioning the war or just for calling fir peace. Children are taken away from their parents for drawing anti-war pictures.... But mister "objective bot" here sprinkles nonsense.... There's no moral equivalence between western values and totalitarian values. We don't need to defend or explain ourselves. The enslavers do!

@adiz @don @rbe_expert So it appears you need a formal system to guide your moral compass... Are you an AI?

@rbe_expert @don Oh, really? And how are you going to assure that? By making everyone poor? I've lived that shit, don't peddle it to me

@adiz @don @rbe_expert are you stupid on purpose? I'm asking a commie what their media is saying. And yes, lots of the extremist groups are influenced by GRU

@adiz @don @rbe_expert if ruZZia wasn't a fascist state it would be murderous criminal state then. In my case "fascist" is just a shortcut for all the crimes they committed. It's a label but I don't care for labels. I'm just sensitive to taking away people's freedoms. Fascists, communists, islamists, christian fundamentalistas - it's basically the same for me.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert there's a definition (several in fact) of fascism. You can look for traits that are present in all fascist states. For example:
- ultranazionalism
- cult to the "glorious past"
- identifyjng varius groups as "enemies of the people".
- taking the voice of "the people": saying what "the people" like or don't like, what they want or don't want, imposing your view on how the society should be organized - because you supposedly speak with "the people's voice"...

There are a bunch of other signs as well. Look it up somewhere. ruZZia is clearly a fascist state right now.

@rbe_expert @don ...so naive...

@rbe_expert @don poor you...