Sarcastic Penguin @extrn@social.cleverlibre.org

@adiz @errante @don @rbe_expert It's funny how you, the marxists, treat the people like livestock - as if they don't have agency but are a faceless mass of "workers" - subject to your analisys... You look so much like the capitalists you are so much against. And what I can't bear is seizing the voice of those people and speaking on their behalf. That's so fucked up...

@rbe_expert @adiz @don we have a saying here that sounds like: "don't sell cucumbers to an old cucumberman". You are a hobbist marxist. I've lived through that shit... You are very much mistaken and wrong about many things. You are happy to be able to discuss your (backward) views in a free forum - a luxury you wouldn't have under any totalitarian ideology. According to Trotsky (for example) the likes of me will regretfully have to be exterminated :) I'd very much like that, obviously :))))

@adiz @errante @don @rbe_expert sure, sure. I distinctly remember not being involved in a totalitarian state at all... It didn't concern me at all being force-fed propaganda and lies... Maybe because of that I will now not hesitate at all to kill any ruZZian pig trying to enslave me again...

@adiz @don @rbe_expert let me boomersplain the joke to you: it is funny, because it very well could have been a true exchange.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert Oh, rush me to the burn unit...

@rbe_expert @adiz @don An old socialist joke: Khruschev and Kennedy meet and Kennedy laments over the freedom of speech in USSR and proudly asserts: Any citizen in US can curse the american president publicly! Kruschev replys: "Same here - any citizen can curse the american president, no restrictions!"

@rbe_expert @adiz @don as a marxist you are an embarasment to the whole humankind. Period :)

@rbe_expert @don bullshit. And how come the same high standards do nog apply in ruZZia itself? Instead they kill and arrest anyone that dares speek about independence/freedom or is anti-putler? You are a true useful idiot :)

@rbe_expert @don same criminals, same terrorist state, same methods, same greed

@rbe_expert @don at most? Oh, I can say so much more...

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I am also curious, what do you imagine is an European supremacist? I confess I hear of this lunacy for the first time :)

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I do not refer to slavic people as orcs. I'm slavic people... :) ruZZian rapists in Ukraine are orcs. Ask anyone ghat cares. .

@adiz @don @rbe_expert Not helping Ukraine means ruZZia taking it. Then Moldova. Increasing their influence. Getting cocky. Starting shit in US (Trump). It is vastly more expensive than just proving them wrong right in the spot of their first transgression. (not that it's their first - they already escalated from human rights issues in the 2000s to the war with Georgia, to the poisonings on western soil, to annexations of Crimea and starting shit in Donbas, to elections interference in US and otger countries...). Much cheaper to kill 500000 orcs and be done with it.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert Sad truth is, freedom has to be forcibly accuired. People that get their freedom by someone tend to lose it quickly. But the free nations has the obligation to support that struggle. Ukraine now has the potential to turn really free, independant and strong country. It will all pay out.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert Much like our government here. Officially - not sending weapons so the ruZZian puppets here are happy. Unofficially - top supporter of Ukraine during the initial critical phase of the war last year. That no doubt was the cause of the government fall. Since then we are under interim gov. managed by a pro-ruzzian president that creates chaos in the country and destroys the democratic institutions.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert And what state that will be? And if you don't do it now, eventually you'll have to do it - just like in WW2. And it will be much more expensive. I think the american administration understands this very well, but they move slowly because of politics - both internal and international.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert the economy will be working on producing weapons instead of more productive things. I call it ruZZian tax. The war can end tomorrow, if putler withdraws from Ukraine, but that's impossible for him. He's manucered himself into a corner - if he withdraws, he'll fall from the nearest window... And there is no way anyone recognizing an illegal annexation. Just a little solidarity and support is required. Unfortunately I see a lot of weasel words and careful calcularltions... I hope at some point the west understandd how important this is.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert USA still refuse to provide more effective weapons like ATACMS. Ukraine needs also abilities to hit deep inside ruZZian territory: to destroy airstrips for strategic bombers and training centers.

@adiz @don @rbe_expert I can only hope this will be resolved quickly - within 5 years. But I am afraid it will not. So instead of doing something productive we are paying a ruZZian tax - because the fucking ruZZians are stupid and can't understand the first thing about dictatorships...