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@freemo I'm in an odd place when it comes to owning a Gun. I loved my revolver when I lived in the US, sold it before moving here.
In Israel I can't own a gun, because I'm under treatment for a mental health issue and there is no 'need' for a gun.
I agree with it though, at least the mental health side of things. While I, personally, have never done anything violent or harmful to anyone else in my episodes that doesn't mean I couldn't if I had the means.
Still, I miss going to the range. That was a great way to spend an afternoon and have some fun.
@Surasanji While, if you do feel it is possible you could be a risk, I agree it is responsible for you not to own a gun, I do not agree with the law.
While I am not particularly bothered when im living in the netherlands by the lack of a gun, and I do disagree with the law, that isnt what bothers me so much about your situation.
The idea of using normally private mental health to dictate who can own a gun is fundamentally disgusting to me. The reason is important. In a situation like that if there is a person who didnt agree and insisted ont he right to own a gun, but felt they were developing a mental disorder, they would explicitly avoid seeking mental health since by doing so they forfeit their rights in a society. This in turn would lead to more harm than good, not only is the sacred confidentiality of doctor and patient violated but it acts as a force in society that makes mental health issues spiral out of control and the situation worse. Plus, stigmatizing mental health...
@freemo I can certainly understand your point of view.
I don't think people with conditions as serious as mine should have guns. I just don't think it's a smart policy to let people who's sickness might harm others given the chance have weapons that can give them the ability to do so.
But, I do totally understand your point of view and agree with parts of it.
@Surasanji I'm not suggesting they should have guns. But just because they shouldnt have guns doesnt mean we need to enforce it the way we do.
Think about how we handle it with anything else in most countries. For example if your physically no longer able to drive (such as you get epilepsy) a doctor could never legally directly get your license reported. It is simply illegal for you not to choose on your own to report yourself. If you dont and you hurt someone or have a seizure on the road you could be arrested for man slaughter.
I see you and your disease similarly. If you dont report yourself then you should be charged with negligence.
@M0YNG @freemo I can rent one at the range here, too, but there's something nice about having your own gun.
It gives you like a sense of agency and it's one of those things you hope you never ever need to use, but you're so very happy you have if that situation comes up.
I was also working as a corrections officer at the time, so, I kept a gun just in case someone from the prisons decided to bother me at home. A .357 Magnum revolver is a lovely way to say hello.
@M0YNG
I dont **need** a lot of things in life that enrich me. Lack of need has never been particularly relevant to what should be legal.
With that said when the nearest police are 20 minutes away and your bleeding to death because you didnt have a gun youll likely change that opinion.
I see that the other way around! If people didn't have guns you wouldn't be bleeding.
I know the "bad people will get them anyway" but it's hard to agree the problem would be the same scale.
Also, I'm a first aider, so I'm also wondering about the response time for medical help!
Finally, most things that enrich your life don't have the ability to leave someone bleeding to death in the floor 😁
1) Who said you were bleeding because of a gun. 2) In a world where any off the shelf 3d printer can print a fully functional gun, a world where guns are not accessible does not exist.
@Surasanji
@freemo @Surasanji
I don't understand why any civilian would ever need to own a gun...
If you want to go down the range, hire one, use it at the range, then leave it there.
But, I'm from the UK, and I have a different experience and lookout to the US in A.