@anonymoose

A judges pronouncement **does** constitute a fact, a very specific one.. if a judge says "your case has been turned down" .. then it is, very much a statement of fact to say, as i did, that the case was... turned down.. Saying a judge turned down a case is a statement of fact and not appeal to authority.

Now where did I say that because a judge turned down the case that that itself present proof that the trump's argument was invalid? I **did** state the lack of evidence invalidates his case, but I did not claim the judges decision did so.

@StoneLi

@freemo @StoneLi if I misunderstood you, I apologize. It certainly seemed like you were implying a causal connection, but if you were not, I withdraw the assertion. In any event, it is quite easy for one to not find evidence they refuse to look for.

@anonymoose

Good thing I spent time looking then.

@StoneLi

@freemo @StoneLi well, okay then. I have known you only a short while, and in that time I have come to respect your reasoned approach to discussion and debate, but in this instance I think you're making assertions that are simply not supported by observable reality. We've probably hit the point of diminishing returns on this one, and it's time to just agree to disagree. Thanks for engaging, and have a good night.

@anonymoose

I mean its clear we disagree on our conclusions about the data, and I too have no reason to disrespect you or your opinons. so all good.

Only other thing we could do is a point by point on the evidence to discuss, which normally I wouldnt mind but that would be a rather drawn out discussion.

@StoneLi