@freemo @hansw stop posting graphs until you know what correlation and causation

@freemo @hansw are

@bloodmasked

I'm iterally a professional data scientist who gets paid by some of the top projects to work on their stuff... so yea, I think i know what the difference is thank you.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw anyone who starts a sentence with "The data shows" is a fucking retard

@bloodmasked

What a masterful and insightful argument you make... well guess im defeated then, you win. Darn, just too clever for me I guess.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw says the fucking retard who spent 3+ years in university only to not know that a correlation cannot possibly reveal causation, might as well flush ur diploma down the toilet

@bloodmasked

I mean, I literally spent several messages in thread explaining how the chart showed correlation and not causation and that is why certain conclusions could not be drawn from the chart alone... I know your way smarter than me and all, but even super smart people like you should try reading a conversation before they disagree with it... might make you look like an idiot. Luckily that didnt happen because of all your witty and insightful input just makes you look super smart, but one day that luck might run out, so might want to try reading things before you disagree with them.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw did your professors not teach you that writing a conclusion which contradicts everything else you had written above it is a bad idea? fucking retard

@bloodmasked

No they didnt, wow thanks for the brilliant advice yet again, your on a roll. If I didnt know how smart you were, and therefore I'm the one who is obviously wrong, I might have thought for a second there you were too clueless to understand what contradictions evn existed, especially when you didnt even read the stuff you decided to throw a tantrum over... but luckily we know your way too smart to even need to bother reading anything before shitting on it, so your good.

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@freemo @hansw hey retard can u type 50 paragraphs amounting to nothing thanks

@bloodmasked

Sure can, easy to do when someone is too stupid to even read something before having a tantrum about it. Pretty much anything I could write fits the description at that point

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw gay retard say what?

@freemo @hansw gay retard says:

@bloodmasked

Good job, you read the first few sentances... now show me the part where I explained the causation can be equally said to go in the other direction due toa. correlation chart, that is, having a population with a large unemployed low education population can also cause minimum wage to increase and that a causative chart **alone** can not show which direction the causation occurs.

Luckily we **do** have specific charts and tests that check for and determine the causative direction, so we can easily resolve that problem. It simply isnt addressed in that particular image.

But clearly you already know all that being so super smart and all.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw BIG RED ARROW

@bloodmasked

Oh good you know your colors AND a few basic words! I'm so proud of how fast your progressing.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@bloodmasked

Try and be a big girl now and read the whole thing so you can grow up and show everyone how big and smart youll become.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw post ur summary and ill tell you how retarded it is

@bloodmasked

I'm not going to put an ounce of effort into writing a summary for a piece of shit know nothing who comes in on blast thinking everyone is wrong and stupid who clearly hasnt even read more than a snippet of the conversation. I am already putting in too much effort considering your low value to the conversation in reply this much.

Now if you feel like acting like a human being who has some worth and can contribute in a meaningful way to a conversation then I'd be more happy to have a grown-up conversation with you instead. Until then you can go play in the kiddie pool. I am done. You were amusing for about 3 seconds though. Shame I feel bad for you, people who usually act like this do it to feel important because they really feel inadequate all the time so acting a fool is the only way you seem important enough to get a response.. Must be a horrible way to live.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@freemo @hansw because ur wrong

@bloodmasked

It shows nothing of the sort, it isnt even a time-series graph so it cant by its very nature show anything to do with how employment has changed over time.

Sounds like you need to take your own advice about understanding something before you post.

@hansw@mastodon.social

@FailForward

There is sadly, always going to be different of opinion on political subjects, 99% of those will be on an extremist side of the political spectrum arguing for an absolutist solution.

But the individual facts there is little doubt. and the two key ones here are that 1) while moderate increases in minimum wage does not decrease the net unemployment 2) it does shift the unemployment burden to the least skilled and most poor portion of the population at the benfit of more skilled and least poor people.

Some often use trickledown economics in its liberal form to argue for it, that by making those whoa re already well to do richer they can use that money to boost the economy and somehow help the poor or ultimately got screwed in the decision...

Frankly I find that bs and the data doesnt bear it out and needs to be pretty manipulated to support that argument.

Likewise the right is just as rediculous wanting to abolish all welfare and minimum wage all together and figure somehow it will all fix itself.

You will find very few people actually looking for a real solution that isn't at the extreme ends of propaganda on the political spectrum. The lack of suck people is the very reason we dont and arelikely not to see a solution, not in the USA, not in the EU.

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