@hansw@mastodon.social I know thats what you meant.

My point is you only seperated out minimum wage and evaluated it seperate from the whole. Yes eliminating minimum wage while not having the other two components in place I mentioned will have things go bad... the poor wont suffer as much, but others will suffer more (the middle class and marginally skilled suffer more without minimum wage alone).

As I said you can only consider minimum wage in relation to the whole, that is, welfare, and job training, talking about things going bad when you dont have one is self-defeating when you also dont have the other two.

so yes you saw things go bad without minimum wage, but that wasnt because minimum wage wasnt there, it is because you were missing the 2 other components i said were neccesary for the solution to be fixed, you must eliminate minimum wage AND enact strong welfare and free job training and education...

If you dont have all three then you will be in a bad situation, it wont make things better. so saying that you saw bad things happen when there was no minimum wage, no welfare AND no free education... well of course, you would, but to conclude that is due solely to the lack of minimum wage is incorrect.

On the flipside if you had seen no minimum wage, but with strong welfare and free education, and things still went badly, then youd be considering the whole, and youd have a good argument that minimum wage should be part of the solution.