what’s next [after the equality act]? racial identity? can someone identify as a minority [for benefits]? i mean we’ve already seen it happen — David Freiheit
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@icedquinn Personally I think we are going about it backwards.. we shouldnt be treating women, or minorities as special groups or give them special treatment (regardless of if they face unique challenges), therefore problem solved, be a minority if you want, who cares.
That isnt that there is no problem or that the problem isnt to be solved. But if we solve the problem for all poor, for example, then by extension we are already helping challenged groups (who are more likely to be poor) as a result.
it's not "men's sports" and "women's sports," they are "sports leagues" and "women's leagues" for the reason of you have potentially 300m citizens in the USA and there are maybe <100 slots to put in the sports league.
the womens leagues are a concession so they can play sports at all.
this is why the whole 'no trans in womens sports' is a big deal.
@icedquinn Seems to me there would be better ways to solve that as well.. Simply have sports be neutral to genders, then do all sports by weight class, problem solved, men will dominate the higher weight class divisions, women will be on equal footing at lower weight classes.. a woman and a man of equal weight, both trained to have low body fat will have equivelant muscle mass and performance.
it turned out that they were still at an unfair disadvantage because the muscle growth they gained pumped up on AGH+others doesn't go away. once the muscles were "stretched out" it was significantly easier for them to maintain bulk that natural bodybuilders couldn't obtain (or had to do obscene workout routines to build.)
essentially once they cheated, they forever cheated, because the cells were already developed to have big muscles.
@icedquinn Assuming that is true im not sure it is a counter argument here. Assuming the analogy carried over to men and women at all at worst it implies a woman might need to spend more time training than a man to be in the same league as him, which is fine by me.. but youd still get women on equal footing with men at the lower weight classes..
The end result would be that the top weight classes would likely be all or mostly men, and then the bottom weight classes or slightly above youd have women right up there with men, it would just be that due to natural differences you might reason that you have the best of the best of the women competing against average level men, they are on equal footing within their league all the same and that just nature, but it would work.
