@marathon I think intelligence is largely learned but how easy it is to learn is the genetic lottery.

@freemo @marathon

I'd be curious to find out the impact of /how/ someone is taught to learn on the outcome of their ability to learn quickly. Or /how/ someone is improperly taught to learn reduces their ability to learn new things in other domains. Such as those poorly instructed in arithmetic, are they more likely to struggle with learning semantic structures of languages? Maybe. That's not an illogical leap.

What if it really came down to the instructor lottery, and those who are considered "good learners" are simply those who were instructed well enough early on to develop highly functional concept absorption?

If that were accepted as true. Teachers unions would be a thing of the past, and quickly.

@anon00110

I think in that case its a few factors, but the most important is the approach the child takes, and the instructor has a lot of influence on thats.

Generally teachers arent too flexible, they suggest a very specific style, and that style is heavy on memorization. This also tends to fail for intelligence. Intelligence requires a level of curiosity and a determination to observe how you learn best and adjust it to your strengths. So either a child needs to learn this for themselves (which is hard when instructors penalize them for this most of the time) or they have to have an unusually adept instructor who knows better.

@marathon

@freemo @marathon

So is it really instruction that teaches or facilitation of discovery that allows for learning?
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@anon00110

Isnt everything when it comes to education discovery, either of information/understanding of a topic or of yoursef?

@marathon

@freemo @marathon For sure, only thing I would add is that such discovery requires an impetus of interest that generally doesn't exists. That impetus is provided through appropriate introduction to a topic by a teacher. Which, doesn't seem to happen today because most, as you point out, are fairly ridged in their approach to what "learning" or "teaching" is supposed to be.

@anon00110

Yes I agree, sadly fewer great teachers has this consequence. Though to be fair a person can still spark it on their own (though this isnt as effective as in person) through youtube or other mediums that can make the subject matter interesting without focusing on just the learning.

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