@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way

@freemo do not cry us a river.
You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.

Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.

@TruthAndFreedom

@pthenq1

We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine

@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social

@pthenq1

measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.

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@freemo
Vaccination will not be mandatory.

There's a record of your vaccines right now, shared by the states, so it is nothing new.

If you applied a any vaccine in the past, it is recorded there.

There're massive events like games, cruisers or concerts that could required this requirement of all participants being vaccinated.

And if someone refuse, then no problem. All good.

@TruthAndFreedom

@pthenq1

It will be effectively mandatory. By creating a centralized registery and universal way to identify publicly who is vaccinated the result of that is you will quickly find it is mendatory to participate in any sort of public activity. In fact it will get to the point where companies willhave to deal with liability concerns if they dont, effectively making it a requirement regardless of the personal views of the person running the venue.

> There's a record of your vaccines right now, shared by the states, so it is nothing new.

Please stop making things up you know nothing about, this is completely false. There is no federal-level record of vaccines. There arent even state level registers of this information!

To quote the CDC:

> Unfortunately, there is no national organization that maintains vaccination records. The CDC does not have this information. The records that exist are the ones you or your parents were given when the vaccines were administered and the ones in the medical record of the doctor or clinic where the vaccines were given.

cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/vaccin.

>There're massive events like games, cruisers or concerts that could required this requirement of all participants being vaccinated.

That and resteraunts, and supermarkets, and pretty much everywhere else. You will quickly find that those running a business will have liability pressures placed on them if they do not screen for vaccinated people.

> And if someone refuse, then no problem. All good.

No, big problem.. in such a world if someone refuses they wont be able to have much of a life and be excluded from entering any building in all likelihood (or atleast the vast majority). They will even be excluded from flying to leave the country.

@freemo
The vaccine record exists. I saw mine.
You can ask for yours too.

@pthenq1 What state in the USA do you live in and how did you access this national registry you speak of?

@freemo
I didn't access. In Georgia, it was accessed by a nurse using some hospital system. And later, it was accessed in California by other nurse using other hospital system. My vaccines were in the record and they were the same.

@pthenq1
That isnt a national registry. Thats because you got vaccinated at a doctor or hospital associates with thar hospitals network. It was just tour private medical records.

Inwas vaccinated with a private doctor not part of a hospital network so they would be unable tonfind my vaccine record (ive tried )

@freemo
Okay. In my case they were different health providers.

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@pthenq1 doesnt matter they were in the same **network**... If I go to thomas Jefferson Hospital or a doctor associated with it, then St. Agnes hospital or a doctor associated with them could assess my health records... However if I go to an independent doctor not in a hospital network then my records are lost. Likewise if I go to a different hospital in a different records network they wont have access either.

Nothing about this is remotely close to a national registry.

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