I'm being told on Twitter that vaccines are safe, they are very angry with me, not joking:
https://twitter.com/MaggieEThornton/status/1380652509405003776

@Coyote you’re doing good work🤣 I’d join you but I’m permanently suspended from Twitter. Every time I open the app there is this big banner that says “Welcome Back” but I can’t tweet and they zero’d out my followers and followed accounts.

@madmike

It's just confronting fools with their own stupidity. When both had "PhD" next to their names, and can't support a single scientific claim, it mostly says our educational system is garbage. But we all knew that... 😂

@Coyote

Probably would help if next time you dont lead in with that hydrochloride stupidity. Yea there are legitimate concerns with the vaccines as they were rushed past the usual safety checks. But your other comments destroyed your credibility.

@madmike

@freemo @Coyote HCQ works and is safe and many many deaths would have been prevented if it were more widely used. There have been epidemiologists and virologists saying as much. They’ve been kicked off of Twitter and YouTube.

@madmike @freemo @Coyote Yes you are right #hcqworks don't listen to scummo he is corrupt academic morally defunct, with god complex, works for government pathological liar as caught many times, just a human garbage that will pay at the end of scamdemic. Covid19 doesn't exist. Virus doesn't exist.
And if scummo says otherwise he can collect free money here samueleckert.net/isolat-truth- he won't because he is simply a liar.

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@akeno

Scummo could have all the evidence in the world and not be able to collect. Anyone who pulls the conspiracy theory bullshit that covid doesnt exist and hasnt been proven to exist doesnt know the first thing about the science of any of it.

@madmike @Coyote

@freemo @akeno @madmike

I know it exists, I've had it, still not breathing right. Got it last March, wish I would have got it now, when they know a bit more.

What's real though is, it's a rather small blip, flu sized so far, and I suspect more life-long damage than a typical flu. But still, it's no where near the scale they say it is, and until I see this data from our own country, I'm going to believe this scale is probably a reasonable representation:
https://twitter.com/VoidSurf1/status/1320269542174720000

Hey @Coyote I'm not at all claiming you didn't catch something. The problem is the boys with SEM have gone into blood sample after blood sample of "Covid" patients, and keep coming back with influenza etc.

So I'm still looking for the lab w. an SEM who captured the thing. Seems like a cool achievement, so why is it so hard for me to find that lab with their image?

@akeno @madmike @freemo

@vandys

What, nothing you just said is remotely true. We have SEM of covid from patients who caught COVID, what the hell are you talking about.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

I'm talking about an actual source. Do you have a URL to a lab with a full SEM data set for the virus in its entirety? Including reference to the source of the blood from which it was obtained?

@vandys

your words dont make sense... what is a "full SEM data set"... scanning electron microscope produces images not data sets.. and what do you mean "including a reference to the source".. what sort of "reference"?

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@vandys

Either way here is one study (and there are countless others like it) that identify the virus and produce quite a few SEM images of it while they interact with various cells.

nature.com/articles/s41598-020

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

> (Nature article, SEM of cells in the presence of C19)

Thank you. This is very focused on the cell level, so you know of a study of the virus itself?

@vandys

You asked for SEM images of the virus, thats it.. it shows it while interacting with the cell. What are you asking for, a SEM of the virus in isolation while not acting on the cell. Not sure why it matters if the cell is present or not, but sure, there are SEM images of the virus by itself too.I attached a closeup of one.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

Thanks again! You are way beyond me in navigating the science side of document search.

@vandys @freemo @akeno @madmike

Generally, most people teach, if you let them and can get past that we are all assholes about pretty much everything we say, all the time, on the interw3bZ!
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@Coyote

I have a very specific tolerance for assholes... insult my ideas all you want, ill probably do the same to you. But the second you start insulting me or a group of people personally then you loose any hope of me treating you respectfully. Insult ideas, not people.

@akeno @vandys @madmike

@freemo @akeno @vandys @madmike

Yea, I troll, I almost always take ad hominim bait and mirror, then draw back to topic. Seems it allows me to separate the trolls from those that can provide substance to a discussion, albeit a bit like walking into a bar and shouting "none a ya bastards know shit, prove me wrong." Because, I also like to seperate out the ones that can handle a comic perspective and laugh from the ones that get all batshit Karen... for my own demented enjoyment, because IMHO, the world lost perspective at the same time it lost it's understanding of Walt Kowalski and Archie Bunker, and the social significance of retaining all viewpoints. Just correlation, but enough to make me often mix the two around for fun on Fedi.

@Coyote

I will ad hominen in return if its done to me as well, thing is, I'm usually better at it. But I will almost never be the initiator of it. I give people respect by default, but once they have explicitly lost that respect I have no issue absolutely destroying you.

@akeno @vandys @madmike

@Coyote

That said if someone apologizing or admits their fault I will happily reinstate their respect :)

@akeno @vandys @madmike

@Coyote @freemo @akeno @madmike @vandys
That's a crucial moment. As soon as any person has mentioned social values, his opponents, who are essentially incapable of holding such a perspective, use labeling to keep their tiny neighborhoods clear from any controversial opinion.

And "troll" is a good example of that pattern.
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