I'm being told on Twitter that vaccines are safe, they are very angry with me, not joking:
https://twitter.com/MaggieEThornton/status/1380652509405003776

@Coyote you’re doing good work🤣 I’d join you but I’m permanently suspended from Twitter. Every time I open the app there is this big banner that says “Welcome Back” but I can’t tweet and they zero’d out my followers and followed accounts.

@madmike

It's just confronting fools with their own stupidity. When both had "PhD" next to their names, and can't support a single scientific claim, it mostly says our educational system is garbage. But we all knew that... 😂

@Coyote

Probably would help if next time you dont lead in with that hydrochloride stupidity. Yea there are legitimate concerns with the vaccines as they were rushed past the usual safety checks. But your other comments destroyed your credibility.

@madmike

@freemo @Coyote HCQ works and is safe and many many deaths would have been prevented if it were more widely used. There have been epidemiologists and virologists saying as much. They’ve been kicked off of Twitter and YouTube.

@madmike @freemo @Coyote Yes you are right #hcqworks don't listen to scummo he is corrupt academic morally defunct, with god complex, works for government pathological liar as caught many times, just a human garbage that will pay at the end of scamdemic. Covid19 doesn't exist. Virus doesn't exist.
And if scummo says otherwise he can collect free money here samueleckert.net/isolat-truth- he won't because he is simply a liar.

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@akeno

Scummo could have all the evidence in the world and not be able to collect. Anyone who pulls the conspiracy theory bullshit that covid doesnt exist and hasnt been proven to exist doesnt know the first thing about the science of any of it.

@madmike @Coyote

@freemo @akeno @madmike

I know it exists, I've had it, still not breathing right. Got it last March, wish I would have got it now, when they know a bit more.

What's real though is, it's a rather small blip, flu sized so far, and I suspect more life-long damage than a typical flu. But still, it's no where near the scale they say it is, and until I see this data from our own country, I'm going to believe this scale is probably a reasonable representation:
https://twitter.com/VoidSurf1/status/1320269542174720000

Hey @Coyote I'm not at all claiming you didn't catch something. The problem is the boys with SEM have gone into blood sample after blood sample of "Covid" patients, and keep coming back with influenza etc.

So I'm still looking for the lab w. an SEM who captured the thing. Seems like a cool achievement, so why is it so hard for me to find that lab with their image?

@akeno @madmike @freemo

@vandys

What, nothing you just said is remotely true. We have SEM of covid from patients who caught COVID, what the hell are you talking about.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

I'm talking about an actual source. Do you have a URL to a lab with a full SEM data set for the virus in its entirety? Including reference to the source of the blood from which it was obtained?

@vandys

your words dont make sense... what is a "full SEM data set"... scanning electron microscope produces images not data sets.. and what do you mean "including a reference to the source".. what sort of "reference"?

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@vandys

Either way here is one study (and there are countless others like it) that identify the virus and produce quite a few SEM images of it while they interact with various cells.

nature.com/articles/s41598-020

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

> (Nature article, SEM of cells in the presence of C19)

Thank you. This is very focused on the cell level, so you know of a study of the virus itself?

@vandys

You asked for SEM images of the virus, thats it.. it shows it while interacting with the cell. What are you asking for, a SEM of the virus in isolation while not acting on the cell. Not sure why it matters if the cell is present or not, but sure, there are SEM images of the virus by itself too.I attached a closeup of one.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo @Coyote @akeno @madmike

Thanks again! You are way beyond me in navigating the science side of document search.

@vandys

No problem, finding research papers admittedly is a bit of an art. I also got a bit lucky finding one that was open access for you.

@Coyote @akeno @madmike

@freemo

Yes, I really appreciated that I could access/download both of those! 👍

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@vandys Shame that open access isnt the norm. But luckily today the open-access gods blessed our journey.

@freemo

Oh, so the other aspect was source. I was wondering about the "chain of evidence" scenario, where someone presents, is diagnosed, then blood draw and *then* pick out the virus from their blood stream. This is the scenario where I read there was some frustration with labs only finding influenza instead of SARS-Cov-2.

You've done enough for me, so not asking for any more help. But that's the scenario tagged with a question mark in my mind.

Thanks for being on the Fediverse.

@vandys In the Pdf the virus in the image obviously originated in someones blood. Granted it was later replicated in vitro but it still started in someones blood. So how can it be anything other than that?

You will never find the case where they just take some blood from someone put it in a SEM and bam, see a virus, any virus. There has to be an in vitro step to replicate the virus so they are numerous enough to be spotted, otherwise its like searching for a needle in a haystack.

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