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I dont buy things based on what I need... if that were the case i wouldnt be buying a game or fancy shirt in the first place I dont NEED those at all. I can wear a potato sack for a shit and it would meet my **needs**. But I do usually WANT it overnight, because i get excited and I dont enjoy waiting for something im excited about.. may not be a need, but it is what i want, and im the one with the money. Business is all about giving people what they want, if people want it overnight (which is clear they do) and you dont provide it, expect all the business to go to amazon (as it tends to).
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @thenewoil Another ethical issue with the overnight shipping: that usually means UPS or FedEx. FedEx ships shark fins, slave dolphins, and hunting trophies, which is abusive to animals and the environment. FedEx is only limited by what they can get away with, whereas FedEx competitors are relatively more ethical. So I favor USPS. If shipping method is undisclosed, I add a note to the order.
While I am against trophy hunting I also dont feel that is the place or the right of the shipping company to get involved in. In fact in my view there should be legal protection and privacy over the content of my package.
@freemo @thenewoil @realcaseyrollins Is this what you envision: (courier) Is that a dolphin in that box of water sir? (seaworld) No, that's just a heavy box of water, don't worry about it.
@realcaseyrollins @thenewoil @freemo I've seen photos of hundreds of sharkfins getting ready to ship in open crates. When the shark finning happens in a 3rd world country of orgin, they have no need to hide them. FedEx knows they're shipping #sharkfins.
The onus in that case is on the 3rd world country to step up and make it illegal, not on FedEx, thats not their purview nor should it be.
@freemo @thenewoil @realcaseyrollins whether it's banned or not, ethical consumers have a duty too. It's our duty as ethical consumers to boycott wrongdoing.
Sure, I agree. But FedEx are not the ones doing wrong in my view. In fact to ban shipping items that are otherwise legal to ship would be fedex engaging in wrong doing in my view...
So yea by all means boycott shark fins, ill support you, but do it where you should be, at the consumer level and at the government level. Its not the place of a package shipper to do that sort of level of investigation or enforcement.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @thenewoil "to ban shipping items that are otherwise legal to ship would be fedex engaging in wrong doing" <= absolutely profoundly absurd. FedEx has a right to control their own business. They can refuse service. That's how business works. They choose to engage in what's profitable.
@thenewoil @realcaseyrollins @freemo If shark fin shipping hurts their business (b/c of the boycott), they should then stop for business reasons and for ethical reasons.
I disagree.. it is not their place for many reasons..
When something is made illegal by law there are proper provisions put in place. For example sharks that are butchered for all their meat, including their fins would be perfectly legal to ship the fins. Similarly farm raised sharks one would expect to be legal even if wild shark fin hunting were illegal.
Therefore if made illegal the government would go through many steps to prosecute someone, they would have to verify the finning was done unethical (as opposed to the ethical sources above) among other things.
FedEx does not have the resources nor should be expected to go off investigating the source of the fins, deciding if they were sustainably harvested, or even what is or is not considered sustainable and ok.
So no, that is not where the solution lies, nor should it, and its absurd to think they should play the role of a police officer and investigate the supply chain and ethics of the things they ship, it is not their place nor should it be.
@freemo @realcaseyrollins @thenewoil the boycott on shark finning business and the legal actions to legislate are not mutually exclusive. I use /all/ my power, both as a voter and as a consumer to fight the shark finning trade.
Your welcome to use as much power as you'd like. But by the looks of it (by pushing for a ban on FedEx on those grounds) your causing more ethical issues than your solving from my PoV.
