So news breaks that Biden wants to censor text messages that have medical misinformation. People are outraged they would censor messages. Did we forget to be mad they read our text messages? Snowden was a limited hangout, change my mind.

@beefcake So naturally concerned by this I tried looking it up. So far all I can find is a random rant by Tucker Carlson without any source information, and a few news agencies reporting on this... Can you link me to a source that verifies this (something Biden said or some other evidence)... So far it looks like just some random republican fear mongering about something that never happened, but I am willing to review any real evidence on this.

@freemo https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-covid-vaccination-campaign-499278 you have to scroll half way down the page, they buried the lede

@beefcake Would you mind copying and pasting the part your referring to. I dont see any quotes or sources that mention text messaging, just vague statements about "doing something"

@freemo “Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages.”

@beefcake That is the assertion, not the evidence of the assertion. I am looking for the reason why that assertion/claim is being made (the evidence) not the accusation itself.

@freemo @beefcake i know they’ve had psaki outright say “strike forces” so clearly they have announced intent to do something

@icedquinn

Well yes, the fact that they are putting on airs about handling "disinformation" is nothing new. I would even say what they will do, albeit mostly as an unknown, is scary given their disposition as a party in general. That said I can find no evidence of anyone associated with Biden saying anything about SMS messages directly.

@beefcake

@icedquinn

The issue was never if ivermectin had a positive effect on the virus but rather if the risks associated with its use outweighed the gains. In severe cases obviously ivermectin makes sense, but in more minor cases where they stand a chance of recovering on their on, not so much. Moreover, it only increases your chances of survival, which isnt the same as saying its a cure. If you take it you still stand a unacceptably high chance of dying.

That said, I'm not sure what google claimed exactly to decide if they were lying or not.

@beefcake

@icedquinn

Can you point me to the wording of that "official policy" please.

And yes as i state it is effective, it just isnt a very good solution overall.. A bullet to the brain cures COVID too, doesnt mean its a good treatment.

@beefcake

@icedquinn

Yes, less than 1% is extremely significant. COVID kills less than 1% of people too alone. So now your taking a drug that has a similar chance of killing you as COVID that slightly reduces the chance of COVID killing you. So overall your chance of dying has now just increased.

@beefcake

@icedquinn

Fair point, but the result is still the same, if your healthy the amount of risk it reduces in covid is less than the amount of risk it adds on its own. There is good reason for the medical standards in place.

You also cant just look at the percentage of serious incident without looking at other numbers. 1% serious incidents but with more severe outcomes (like internal bleeding) is worse than 5% serious incidents that are less severe... so we arent really talking a complete picture here.

Point is, like i said, there is a point of equilibrium with this stuff. If you give it to people who are in good condition then your not helping, but as a medication for someone crticially ill it will help.

But no matter how you cide it even if it had no side effects at all it isnt a cure, it merely improves your odds at best.

@beefcake

@icedquinn

Correct, I would boycott he vaccine at all costs if at any point they feel forced (such as with passports, or making it mandatory in anyway).

I have also pointed out that the vaccines were released a bit prematurely and in terms of testings its safety they arent up to snuff compared to previous vaccines

@nanook @beefcake

@icedquinn

Yea the EU has always been behind the curve on this issue even before COVID. You dont get much of a choice in the EU, particularly if you are an immigrant.

@nanook @beefcake