@realcaseyrollins I am in no way anti-vax, though also dont think this vaccine is effective enough to be a viable solution (no how matter how many boosters they come up with)... all that said, fauci's handling and advice has been absolute shit.

@freemo Oh interesting! I actually now believe that the vaccines are definitely effective enough to recommend to the elderly, and perhaps the immunocompromised

I also spoke to someone last weekend whose kid is going through alternative healthcare methods because of adverse vaccine affects, and he said the doctors blame the adverse affects on an overloaded immune system because the body was already producing antibodies and getting a vaccine while already producing antibodies basically wrecks the immune system and overwhelms your body because it's trying to do too much. I'll need to verify it but if that's true it makes sense and means the vaccines aren't as dangerous as I thought
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@realcaseyrollins The vaccines arent particularly dangerous. Tylenol is far more dangerous than the vaccines. But being safe is not the same as being risk free. If 3 shots worked and you were done that would be great, but it seems this virus evolves so fast that we would have to design a new vaccine and administer it every 3 to 6 months (assuming the pattern we currently see holds). Even considering the safety of vaccines in general that would be impractical and unsafe to get a shot every 3 months and ultimately may suggest that vaccines will be abandoned as a solution.

@freemo @realcaseyrollins Tylenol is an insanely dangerous drug and is added to medications to kill people as an anti-abuse mechanism. It probably shouldn't be sold OTC.

@becassine

Its sorta safe at the recomended dose, but even then long term has a ton of problems. Its theraputic index is very low though. Meaning the difference between a normal effective dose, and an LD50 dose (a dose that kills 50% of the people who took it) is rather low. So it is extremely easy to overdose on or get close to overdosing on if you take more than the recommended dose.

@realcaseyrollins @crunklord420

@freemo @realcaseyrollins @crunklord420 wow! Scary!

Are any of the over the counter pain killers okay to take?

@becassine

Anything other than tylenol is much much safer. But even then all them have long term risks and the ability to overdose. Just with a much better safety profile.

I am not a medical doctor so dont take this as medical advice. But generally the safest OTC pain killers are your NSAID types. Naproxen would be your safest choice in my opinion as it has a similar safety profile to most NSAID but with a very long half life so if you have to take it over the course of days you dont have to take very much (high theraputic index)

@realcaseyrollins @crunklord420

@freemo @becassine @crunklord420 Yes I tried taking a bunch when I had a sinus infection and since it wasn’t working I kept upping the dose until my friends got worried and let me know that would have killed my kidneys if I kept at it 😂

@realcaseyrollins

Yup, many argue that if tylenol were a new drug hitting the markets today it probably wouldnt get FDA approval as an OTC medication.

@becassine @crunklord420

@becassine @crunklord420 @freemo @realcaseyrollins it is very hard on your liver. Taking it occasionally is fine but other otc painkillers like aleve are safer.
Here’s an article
https://chriskresser.com/the-dangers-of-acetaminophen/

@Tasty

FYI when i recommended Naproxen as one of the safest OTC pain killers, thats just the generic name for Aleve. So yea, agreed.

@realcaseyrollins @becassine @crunklord420

@becassine @freemo @realcaseyrollins an effective dose of tylenol is bordering on liver damage. Nevermind people will drink alcohol and worsen this effect. I bet the stats on tylenol caused acute liver failure is insane.

Hardly anyone should be taking tylenol instead of ibuprofen or naproxen. NSAIDs are much safer for those without contraindications.

The difference between Tylenol 1/2/3 is the amount of codeine. The acetaminophen content stays the same. They'd literally rather kill you than let you take extra codeine.

@crunklord420

A normal dose once every few months isnt likely to cause any long term liver damage. Its fine, but as you say should be avoided if you can for safer drugs.

That said, tylenol (acetaminophen) has its place where it is the correct drug of choice.

The only viable situation where I see tylenol as the drug of choice and I would recommend it as a first line drug would be as a fever reducer. It is very effective and a high fever can be lethal, so it is well worth the risk in such a situation.

@realcaseyrollins @becassine

@freemo @realcaseyrollins @becassine it's a conspiracy how they add it to everything by default. Pseudoephedrine, dextromethorphan, methocarbamol. You have to go out of your way to find the type that doesn't have acetaminophen.

@crunklord420

Yes as you said the logic is when you overdose on it and it nearly kills you you will puke it up.

Its a pretty shitty thing to do honestly and probably kills more people than it saves.

@realcaseyrollins @becassine

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