the fuck do these need wayland for

@abloo I suspect those things need either wayland OR xorg and perhaps you just dont have xorg?

@freemo It's explicitly wayland

This is something the arch packagers did


Just checked and it's A DAMN BUILD DEPENDANCY

@freemo specifically for dunst

@abloo yea but then why are the other packages claiming they depend on it... iw ouldnt expect an indirect dependency to be reported that way....

@freemo yeah
Dependancies arent handled very well on arch


Idealy i'd be able to maintain my own repo but i dont have the time or patince to do that

@abloo While arch has been very managable I will admit that I have had some trouble with the dependency rats nest as well, especially when you try to delete a dependency or revert to an older one.

Sadly one of the big issues with a rolling system that aggressively purges older versions and relies heavily on AURs that may need said versions.

Sometimes i miss my Gentoo days just because they would actually maintain quite a few older versions for exactly that reason.

@freemo yeah

Does gentoo let you edi the source before compiling with emerge?

@abloo It has been a few years since I actually used gentoo honestly. But I do recall it being rather trivial to insert your own modified version of a package.

@freemo @abloo you can put your own version of a thing in an overlay

@icedquinn @freemo does it play nicely with updates?

@abloo

It does rolling updates similar to archlinux (but more so from source than from binary)... if you update often it almost always went flawless for me. That said when i finally left gentoo its because I hadnt updated a system in like 6 months and at that point the dependencies could not longer resolve and it became near impossible to figure out how to update the system. Not sure how common a problem that still is, but it happened once or twice to the point where it took me a week or more to fixand the very last time i just couldnt fix it.... so yea it became the reason I jumped ship.

That said I never once had updates be a problem when i was responsible enough to update regularly. Well not a problem I couldnt fix relatively easily anyway.

@icedquinn