Make no mistake, the tories are abandoning the NHS so that when it catastrophically fails they can push a switch to an American style private insurance system, and people will simply die for being poor. Fuck those guys.
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@quinn even if the tories were the reason, it just goes to show exactly why the government shouldnt get involved with healthcare, it will always be incompetant, the tories wont go away.
I dont think the american system works but ive lived in many coubtries and been subject to many socialized healthcare systems. If one thibg is obvious to me its thst socialized healthcare doesnt work either (not talking about helpibg out poor people financially with healthcare costs, that part i support)
@freemo if they are a failure they're the best failures ever on any measure of outcomes. who has the magic system with better outcomes than France or Japan, who both use price controls and universal requirements?
@quinn Again another non-sequitor.. which of the two systems is the best, and the fact that 100 or 1000 years ago systems were worse has abosolutely no relevance to the argument.
Generation after generation we look at our healthcare as the best compared to what came before, human progress is improvement... if anything the fact that healthcare now is vastly improved overall than healthcare in our past is a strong indication there are significant improvements to healthcare that have yet to be discovered. No doubt in a few generations those that look back on both american and european healthcare will see it as barbaric to the systems they use in the future, much as we feel when we look a few generations back.
