The Governor just called the school shooting in Tennessee a “tragic situation.”

Think about that.

@georgetakei I'm not sure I'm following... It is a tragic situation isnt it? Very tragic.

@freemo @georgetakei And yet our Republican leaders refuse to do anything about it. Instead, they ban drag shows.

@Litzz11

The Republicans dont do anything, and the democrats act in ways that make it worse.. both sides are guilty in that sense.

@georgetakei

@marq

If you actually think republicans, or democrats for that matter, are solving hte problem I hate to break it to you, but you are the one witht he stupid bullshit here.

@Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @Litzz11 @georgetakei

This is squarely on the repubes and their goddamned frightened and angry supporters for worshiping guns and blocking any attempt by Democrats to make meaningful legislation, so you can shove that "both sides" bullshit waaaaaay up your ass.

@marq

While you arent wrong about republicans the fact that you think democrats arent actively making it worse rather than better is laughable.. but it clear from your antagonistic and bad-faith tone you will not and probably never have listened to anyone who ever criticized your home team.

@Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

Democrats "aren't doing anything" because Republicans won't let them.

And Republicans are actively trying to make things worse by passing laws that make it easy for teens to get guns.

@kinyutaka

> Democrats "aren't doing anything" because Republicans won't let them.

Ahh the old "everything is republicans fault, especially the things that the democrats do"... yea sorry but thats a lie people tell themselves because they drank the kool-aid

> And Republicans are actively trying to make things worse by passing laws that make it easy for teens to get guns.

Yup, and while that isnt solving school shootings, it also isnt making it worse.. at least according to the numbers.. higher access to guns (when properly analyzed using valid techniques like granger causality analysis) doesnt actually result in more murders of children, in fact, the numbers show it reduces it.

I do of course understand the common sense reaction to "banning guns will fix the problem".. but sadly common sense often fails us, and in this situation it most surely does.

@marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

Here is a metric for you, few states in the US had fewer gun homicides in 2020 than 1981, most had very many more.

The two most notable drops:

California (still 2nd in the nation) dropped from 4,010 to 3,449

New York dropped from 1,950 to 1,052

What is similar to these two states? They have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, mostly involving licensing and training of potential gun owners.

That is what works.

@kinyutaka

So as a professional statistician I was very clear to state that the critiea is valid analysis, and i pointed out that to do so you'd have to use granger causality or similar techniques.

Is what you just described granger causality or a valid way of analyzing the data based on how experts are trained who know how to analyze data?

Obviously the answer is no, but what I find telling is why did you try to spit out numbers, which i assume were cherry picked (though maybe not intentionally) and not actually ask what i meant by granger causality and try to first learn, objectively, why I suggested it as one of the few forms of proper analysis in this context?

@marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei

@freemo @kinyutaka @marq @Litzz11 @georgetakei a very simple response to this - the UK had a school shooting at Dunblane 27 years ago. We put in place restrictive gun ownership very shortly after. There has not been a school shooting since.

You can talk about statistics as much as you like, but the USA is the only country in the world that behaves like it does. Gun ownership is seen as more important than the lives of children

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